The TVI Express Scam/Scandal
Is TVI Express a scam? Is this TVI Express scam REALLY one of the biggest ponzi schemes, pyramids, or network marketing scams of the decade?
Can someone really make 10 grand by only getting two people?
How can TVI Express afford to send thousands of people on expense paid trips around the world simply by joining?
These were the kind of questions I was asking about TVI Express because frankly I thought it was the biggest freakin' scam I had ever seen. But just like any smart business person I decided to do my research and see exactly what kind of dirt I could dig up about the TVI Express Scam.
In the following article you are going to learn a TON about who TVI REALLY is and why they have been breaking so many records.
Travel Ventures International - Secret Scam?
The first thing that had to be figured out was did TVI Express has any credibility and if they did where did it come from? Otherwise TVI Express would undoubtedly be a scam.
What research showed was that every single major travel company that TVI "claims" to be doing business with was actually backing them up 100%. That was a major green light because no international travel company would put their business and their reputation on the line for TVI if they weren't a legitimate company.
Now you can breathe a little bit easier.
Next one the plate would be the companies comp plan. But lets put that to a real test. How in the heck are they able to pay out $10,000 to someone just for getting 2 measly people?
At first this threw up a MAJOR red flag but once the actual volume of numbers and amount of money was understood it became perfectly clear how it was not only possible, but reality.
Here's a quick break down.
When you come into TVI Express it costs $250. Then all you have to do is get two people to join under you and you're set. Once you have those two people you are then put into a revolving matrix which 'pushes' you up to the top position from the MASSIVE spillover. Once you cycle out of that position you make a commission.
The first commission is $500 and the second one is $10,000. And $10,000 again every time after that. Meaning you will receive 10K over and over each time you cycle out of what TVI Express calls the Express Board.
It takes awhile for the structure of the comp plan to sink in but once it does the potential you'll see here becomes incredible.
But the real genius part of the plan is this. You could join TVI Express, sponsor two people and not do another thing and eventually you will cycle out of the Express Board and hit 10K. It would just take longer this way.
Could TVI Express Equal Success? Or Is It Scam City?
One of the most determining factors in the success of any Network Marketing or MLM company is the way you choose to market that specific opportunity. With TVI Express it is not different. If you do not have a marketing plan then you don't have a business.
At this point in time is should be obvious that leveraging the Internet is the absolute best way to generate leads for your business to say the least. The best way to do that is by creating ads that drive traffic to a capture page.
A capture page is simply a way to 'capture' your prospects information so that you can call them back, email them, or however you choose. But the idea is that you now have their information so that you can market to them for the rest of time.
This is an area where you usually see MLM companies fall completely short. In fact, most MLM companies don't even support online marketing. This is where TVI is different.
TVI Express is one of the ONLY companies that gives you a capture page right on the replicated site once you join. This is by far the most powerful tool you could ever have when building a business online. And TVI Express gives it to you as part of your business.
TVI Express Pre-Launch Phase
What is absolutely scary is that TVI Express is still in it's Pre-Launch Phase. Meaning that it is still an infant. Yet just as a baby it has broken all kinds of MLM records and shattered growth rates of any other company to date.
And they are just barley coming out of the pre-launch phase. That is scary for a company to be doing that good in pre-launch.
My advise to you is click on the link below to learn how to can start earning 10K over and over again. This may seem like a joke because of the big numbers associated with this but trust me, this is as real as it gets.
TVI Express Registration
This is one of those things where if you don't take the time to look at this you will seriously be kicking your own as later on.
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dante kane says:
2 months ago
BIG BIG scam
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Dante, I want you to remember this quote.
"A Wise Person Will Investigate What
A Foolish Person Will Take For Granted."
Take a good hard look at this company my friend, I am about to cycle for my first 10 grand by the end of this month.
Byonr says:
2 months ago
I am hearing no one has taken a TVI vacation yet....!
Doesn't hat worry anybody?
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People String has real value. First of all, just for being a member (using People String's home page and fun free programs), you make around 1000 per year. This is FREE money. We are getting paid to do things we are already doing. Secondly, is People String's amazing email which allows us to send video emails and recall or track our emails, which are expensive features we get for free. Thirdly, which is my favorite, we are helping others by sharing People String with them. I mean, who couldn't use an extra 1000 a year...right? So... we make money by giving away money! The more people we help, the more money we make, and the sky is the limit. Where else can you find this? People String has the best value of anything I've seen on the internet. WE GET PAID TO HELP OTHERS!
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Shar says:
2 months ago
I like the scam that you are starting with pre-registering. You know that it's better if the people see the boards and choose a good team. I know take their email and then as soon as you get it you kindly reply you have a special spot for them>>>> Please visit Tviexpress.com and see for yourself!
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Hey Byonr,
First of all TVI has been in pre-launch up until Oct 31, 2009. So it hasn't been possible for people to take vacations until that point. However, TVI Express is much more than just one vacation.
When you join for $250 not only do you get that vacation but you become part of a travel club for life. A travel club that a lot of times has prices cheaper than Expedia, Travelocity, Orbitz and so on.
In fact, a good friend of mine just got back from SoCal for a U2 concert and he used TVI Express to book a hotel down there. When he arrived the clerks were amazed at how cheap the rate was and wanted to know how he got this so cheap so that could do the same in the future.
Furthermore, I am already on the Express board in TVI Express meaning that I have already doubled my small investment of $250 dollars and will soon be making 10K in the next few weeks.
If I were you I would recommend rethinking your business opp. While People String is a good company it will take time for you to see any kind of serious money.
Matthew Neer
Mike says:
2 months ago
Matt with all the negative Google info on TVI, how is it
possible to even get people to join? It not! Its 10/2909 and TVI web site has been banned from the web! Yep, I fell for it too.
Cheers,
Mike
vmuraliv says:
2 months ago
First of all let me thank you for your detailed review .. But What you want a vacation or 10000$ again and again ...?
You have to decide .. right ?
http://tviexpressblog.info
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Hey there Mike,
TVI Express honestly does not have that much negative information on the web. I would suspect if there was a large number, or ever one person who had no received their 10K then it would be literally BLASTED all of the web. However, I've found no such complaints.
As for TVI Express being banned from the web. I find that rather ludicrous. I was just on the website checking my downline a few minutes ago.
So I don't know if you're in TVI Express or not. But if you are I would suggest visiting my website and opting in so that we can discuss some strategy.
http://TVIexpress.com/zzyzx
Would love to be of some service here.
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Hey Vmuraliv,
You're more than welcome for the TVI Express scam review. It was my pleasure. You're right though, it is your decision.
However, when you join TVI Express you get both. Travel and the opportunity to make 10K over and over.
With TVI Express you become a member of a Travel Club similar to Expedia, Trevelocity, and all the others. With that lifetime membership you get access to some of the cheapest rates around.
Plus, if you can sell two vacations packages through TVI Express then you are now qualified to earn a $500 commission. Then, if you simply just help those two people sell two of their own travel packages, you're now qualified for 10K.
I hope this was helpful,
Matthew Neer
Chad says:
2 months ago
The website is down because by Oct. 31 they will have added all of the vacation spots for the United states. So they have just been doing maintenace the last few days.
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
You know it Chad,
TVI Express has actually been adding more servers because at any given time there is about 30,000 to 40,000 people on the site at one time. They will be done upgrading by launch time on Nov 1st, 2009.
Thanks for your input.
http://TVIexpress.com/zzyzx
pgbrowne says:
2 months ago
Whilst I nor anyone can really tell if TVI Express is a scam, the real fact is that people are making money from this company. There are naturally doubters all over the world, but I imagine that most of the people who are posting negative comments are those people who are not actually members of TVI. If a real member had any problems then I imagine that this would have more credability than a complete stranger just posting that this is a scam.
There is no pressure to join. Everyone has freedom of choice and I am a little bit fed up with people making false comments when they have not directly tried this company.
I may be wrong - but then again my glass is always half full rather than being half empty. What have you got to lose apart from $250? lol!
Paul
http://eca.sh/aYER
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Hey Paul,
You make a excellent point, the people that are claiming TVI Express is a scam probably are not in TVI Express. And there is absolutely no pressure because this train is leaving with or without you.
My glass is always half as well my friend. And as far as the $250 goes, worst case scenario you are going to get a 6day/7night stay at an exotic resort of your choice anywhere around the world. So what are you really got to loose?
http://OnlineTravelSecrets.com
pgbrowne says:
2 months ago
I agree Matthew. No one is holding a gun to their heads. You either see the opportunity and take a chance, or you don't! Simple as that!
Everything in life is a gamble sometimes. Even walking down the road. If you believed everything that people wrote you would never get out of bed in the morning.
Time to start trusting the people who know the truth and go for it!!!
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Lol, no doubt about that Paul.
And honestly, I wouldn't want to work with somebody who doesn't 'get it' like the movers and shakers do.
It's true that everything in life is a gamble however sometimes you have better chances of winning when things are aligned properly. And it takes a smart person to spot that golden opportunity to go ALL IN.
In my opinion, TVI Express has been one of those opportunities because of the timing and the quick/fat payouts.
Matthew Neer
gail says:
2 months ago
Hi, I am a member-haven't gotten anyone signed up yet as that site isn't up and I can't claim that I've gotten my trip. I checked and though it is Nov. 1-it still isn't working. An attorney I was talking with stated that as this is a pyramid scheme-one day there will be no buyers left, it'll dry up and many will lose their money. Hence, it isn't ethical to try to promote it. The making money is certainly great, but not at the expense of someone downline. (so, two questions there)
Mehernosh says:
2 months ago
Hi, can u tell me 1 thing that if i join tvi express by being a member by paying $250 i get a vacation package. I bring 2 people along with me to qualify Traveler Board oK, but after bringing 2 persons if Suppose i am not able to bring any more candidates. Is it possible to Qualify to the Express Board ? Will it help me to gain profits even after failing to bring more people in the group ? Plz. answer the queries.
Mehernosh
S Holmes says:
2 months ago
TVIexpress is an obvious pyramid scheme.
The "company" tries to pretend that the business is about selling travels, but if you read their web pages, in particular the FAQ ( http://www.tviexpress.com/faq.php ), it becomes obvious that the whole thing is about recruiting members who will pay in 250 US dollars, and the members are promised that they will thereafter receive money when other members are recruited; In other words a classic pyramid scheme, and clearly illegal according to the laws in most civilised countries in the world.
The company claims to be "a leading multinational conglomerate headquartered in London, United Kingdom", but you will not find it in the UK telephone book ( http://www.192.com/businesses/ ), and the company does not exist at the address stated on the web pages (office building Marble Arch Tower, 55 Bryanston Street, London). You can check this by doing an "advanced search" in the UK directory for businesses at 55 Bryanston Street in London.
Additionally, you will not find this "company" if you do a search in the UK company register ( http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/ ).
So much for a "leading multinational conglomerate headquartered in London"!
One of the persons behind this pyramid scheme is named Ken Russo (see http://faithsloan.com/tag/join-tvi-express/ ).
This person Ken Russo has run, or has been pushing, a number of Ponzi- and pyramid schemes, which is easily seen if you google "Ken Russo" + scam.
Conclusion: An illegal pyramid scheme and guaranteed to collapse. STAY AWAY!!!
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Hey Gail,
TVI Express is going through some growing pains and is in the process of relocating their server farms. This process should be complete very shortly. And as for the travel side, they are still working on getting the available and will be rolling out any day now. However, you are able to book hotels, flights, and car rentals. In fact, TVI Express has rates that are FAR cheaper than most right now.
As far as TVI Express being a scam, that just isn't the case Gail. TVI Express has almost ALL of the major travel corporations backing them. Those companies would NOT be involved in something that is a scam.
Believe me I've done very extensive research digging for something wrong with this company and I haven't found ANYTHING to set off the TVI Express Scam red flag.
http://OnlineTravelSecrets.com
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Hey there Mehernosh,
In order to qualify for the Express Board you need to bring two people to the Express Board with you. So basically you need two fully qualified positions under you to get there.
So all you have to do is help your two people get their 2. And your done! That's it. You are now qualified and eventually WILL hit the 10K pay day.
http://OnlineTravelSecrets.com
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Mr. S Holmes,
#1 - It's completely obvious that TVI Express is about selling travel packages to people for $250 dollars. That is how the company makes money in order to stay in business. However, there is no "promise" of payment there after. At that point it becomes your responsibility to sell travel packages to make money. Or in other words a typical direct selling business combined with Network Marketing and definitely NOT a scam.
#2 - The URLs you provided "claiming" that TVI Express doesn't have a physical presence are false and unconclusive. Furthermore the URLs you provided look like spammy/scammer sites themselves.
#3 I don't know who the heck Ken Russo is but he is NOT running TVI Express nor is TVI Express a Scam. Even if you Google the query you suggested nothing relevant even comes up.
So with all of that said I appreciate your comment but I do not appreciate you posting false information on this page with no tangible evidence to back it up. So please take your TVI Express scam claiming thoughts elsewhere.
This Hub Page is here for me to give legitimate answers for those who have serious questions and to see that they are successful in TVI Express.
Matthew Neer
http://OnlineTravelSecrets.com
enlightened says:
2 months ago
Matthew, you are a moron. TVI is a pyramid scheme if there ever was one. What kind of a buisness makes money by not only giving away free vacations, but turning your $250.00 into $10,000.00 over and over again?
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Enlightened,
You obviously do not understand how the compensation plan functions. Once you understand the shear volume of numbers associated with what it takes to break an Express Board it will make sense.
And if TVI Express was a scam can you tell me how its possible for me to book hotels through their travel booking engine?
Furthermore why would Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Hertz, Marriott, British Ariways and may more all put their valuable reputation on the line with a company that is a scam.
Please answer that for me when you get a chance...
enlightened says:
2 months ago
I understand exactly how the compensation plan works... as long as there are new suckers willing to join everything is fine and the money is circulating. The problem is that the larger this scam gets the more and more it takes to feed it. Eventually it breaks down and there are some who made money and many many more who get screwed. $250.00 is not a lot of money for those who can afford it, but for some who are investing everything into a get rich quick scheme it can be devastating. Consider that when coaxing people who trust you to join. There is no way the payouts can be eternally sustainable.
As far as the travel portion of it that remains to be seen what will happen. If you are joining just for the discounts and not getting your hopes up on a get rich quick scheme then more power to you. I will stick with Orbitz.
Skeptic says:
2 months ago
The main difference between a MLM and a Pyramid scam is that in a MLM you are paid a comission for selling a product or service. In a Pryamid scam you are usually only selling memberships. It is not that nobody makes any money in a Pyramid scam, but about 88%of the investors loose out.
TVI claims to be a MLM because they are selling "vacation packages". In reality TVI is only selling memberships, they have no real product or service.They are able to offer discounts on "name brand" companies, but only because of the volume of their "salespeople". If you were able to get a large group of people together willing to go on a Carnival Cruise, they would give you a discount too. That does not mean you are a legitimate buisness.
Bottom line is that TVI is a Pyramid Scheme in disguise, not a legitimate MLM, if it were it would pay comissions, not put you on the Boards, where the majority of people will ultimatly loose out when the "salespeople" run out of new recruits. If you are seriously considering joining I would encourage you to read up on Pyramid Scams and Multi Level Marketing scams before making your decision, you will find that your research and TVI are way too much alike to be worth the while.
Try: http://money.howstuffworks.com/pyramid-scheme.htm
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
or
skepdic.com/pyramid.html
or
www.ehow.com/how_2099480_spot-pyramid-scams.html
I think you can all figure it out for yourselves from here.
enlightened says:
2 months ago
Hey Matt,
Are you still so sure that you have invested in a legitimate buisness? Are you confident that all of the people whom you convinced to join have not been misled? Are you going to be just as naive next time something like this comes around? The truth will come out sooner or later, then you will be enlightened 2. Live and Learn.
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Enlightened,
First of all if you a professional you don't "convince" people to join a MLM opportunity. You will never have any success that way. You simply need to show them what it is and let them decide for themselves.
Second this website says a TON about the legitimacy of this company. Check it out for yourself.
http://citizencorps.com/tvi-express-travel-venture
Matthew Neer
Nuclius Rules says:
2 months ago
TVI's days are numbered. It is a huge pyramid scheme. TrinitiComm is the real deal and wil make people a lot of money. http://triniticomm.com.mybiz44320
TVI Express Busted says:
2 months ago
http://www.mlmwatchdog.com/RC_Scam_Pyramid.html. More charges from other countries to follow.
Piram says:
2 months ago
I have gone through the web site TVIexpress.com & i found it very interesting & i would to like to join it. I stay in Nagpur - Country India. I think that there may be some people over here who are members of TVIexpress. So can i know who they r so that i can contact them & join this Venture.
Piram
pgbrowne says:
2 months ago
Piram,
If you would like to contact me, I will put you in touch with a fantastic TVI Express team that gets constant results. Contact me and I will send you full details. Many thanks, Paul
http://www.paulbrowne.co.uk
jmanagement.james says:
2 months ago
I find this to be very interesting. Usually people who speak against a product, company etc, is someone who has used them personally. Therefore making the comment valid. Well I can tell you first hand that this company is legitimate. I have been very fortunate to have been in this business for the last 2 weeks, and have already received my 500.00. As well as 3 others that I have personally sponsored(they have also received theirs). I was introduced to this program from a personal friend. I was skeptical at first, but I did my due diligence, and pursued the idea. Once I paid my 250.00, I was emailed my 6 day/7 night voucher that allows me to stay anywhere in the world. I then proceeded to book it, to see if it was valid. At that time listings to several hotels that accepts this voucher were emailed to me(I called the hotels as well, they verified the info). They all are 3-5 star hotels. I was impressed. So I proceeded to get 2 friends involved, and that qualified me for the 500.00. 6 days later, I received $250.00, and 250.00 traveler's voucher. I then transferred my money to my bank account, and sold my voucher for 250.00. So looking pretty good so far. Now I am on the "Express" board, where my friend has just received his 10k! Yes, , , ,his 10k, and guess what I am next in line. So I said all this to say, that I am very real. I live in Atlanta GA, and I can be contacted. So if anyone is interested in moving forward, let me know. I will be more than happy to help you obtain financial success. Good luck, and God bless. I can be contacted at jmanagement.james@gmail.com, or contact me on my twitter @ http://twitter.com/jmanagement3579. Leave me a message! or call me at 646.339.7770
http://tviexpressveryreal.blogspot.com/2009/11/tvi
pgbrowne says:
2 months ago
jmanagement.james.
Thank you for your post. Its nice to hear from people who are actually involved with TVI Express. The others who have commented against this opportunity are obviously not involved so I see little relevance in their posts. Its not for everyone, but for those that wish to change their lives then this is a remarkable business and one which is still growing! Get in now and reap the benefits!
Keep smiling folks!
http://www.paulbrowne.co.uk.
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Hey jmanagement.james,
Thank you so much for your positive feedback. It is truly appreciated man, you rock! We need more success stories like that to share with the world here.
Personally I have had much success as well. Within my first week in TVI Express I had already tripled the money I invested into TVI Express.
The other comments here are from people who obviously do not like MLM or have had bad experiences in the past. Great to hear of your success, let me know how I can help you any further.
Matthew Neer
http://OnlineTravelBailout.com
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
Piram,
Thanks for checking out my Hubpage and thanks for taking the initiative to investigating TVI Express further. If you would like to join I would like to invite you to join my Team here in the US. We've created over 100 $10,000 pay days in the last 12 weeks and more are happening every single day.
For more information you can visit the site below.
http://OnlineTravelBailout.com
Jaksy says:
2 months ago
Hello guys!Has anybody already used the vacation package????????????????It is very interesting,nobody is talking about it!And what about the 5000$ traveller voucher??????????
Dave says:
2 months ago
Hey Matthew,
I'm in TVI and very excited about it. Have already split 3 travel boards and am at the top of 2 10k boards under 30 days. Very exciting!
So my question is when will I be able to redeem my certificate? I have sent 4 emails and called TVI twice with no response. Little concerned...I need to book this ASAP!
Thanks,
Dave
bcmodee says:
2 months ago
I have no doubt you people are making money. I have no doubt those of you who are in TVI truly believe it's legit. I'm still skeptical. Somebody please show me the math on this!!! I want to believe it, but where does the money come from??? 15 recruits x $250 = $3750. Then you cycle to next board. Ok so far. But, nobody on the 2nd board has paid anything to get on it to get their $10,000. Where is this money coming from???
matthewneer says:
2 months ago
As far as I know the 6night/7day vacations are not yet available in the TVI Express backoffice, however the booking engine is fully functional and will allow you to book hotels at extremely discounted rates.
Ed says:
6 weeks ago
Matthew,
Did you cycled out the express board and receive the $10,000 yet?
Ed
pat says:
6 weeks ago
Matthew,
i just joined this company and now i'm worried that it is a scam. There is no information about the owner or owners listed anywhere. i am able to use my web site but i showed it to a friend from the uk and she talked to a police officer who said he thought it was a scam. i want this to be the real deal. can you tell me anything that proves it is?
pat
laurie adamson says:
6 weeks ago
My friends and I joined TVI and while my sponser is about to cycle thru the express board one of our members has a legitimate complaint. He bought a pkg (3) memberships but they only put one on the board. We've called many times and someone keeps promising to fix it but after 3 weeks, it's not.Also the 6 nites vac was supposed to be available Nov !st and it's now 2 weeks into Nov and it's not. Anybody have data on if the credit card payment will be available in the states?
jorson says:
6 weeks ago
90% of MLM companies go bankrupt in the first 2 years and typically a few guys very few ends up becoming millionaires. Want to do MLM go with a company that's at least 5 years old with an actual consumable product for long term income, not just from getting people in. The rest is just plain hard work.
Ronnie says:
6 weeks ago
Hey Folks I did a review on TVI Express in this video. You should hear what MLM Veteran Rod Cook Had to Say about this program and it was not good...
Ponzi Scam Alert? Tvi Express - Review by Ronnie Branch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI4y3xK_jMU
Ronnie Branch
4real says:
6 weeks ago
All I can say is don't knock it until you have tried it! Why are there so many of you giving out negative feedback when you aren't even members of TVI? You wouldn't even be looking at these websites unless you were curious or interested in this company. Why don't you people save yourself some time and just join. That way you can find out for yourself if it is truely a good investment or a scam!
Jmarce22 says:
6 weeks ago
Hey guys!
I love the information provided on your site. One thing I find amazing about the home-based business industry is how individuals use negativity to market their own little "Guru" site. I call it the Whodini effect. You know...use the negativity to distract someone away from the topic they are researching and then market their own opportunity. You will see it all over this site. I only ask one thing...all the Guru's...please prove your expertise in the form of income before claiming you know what you are talking about.
I can't say I made $10K yet, but I can show you all my position within my TVI Express business...I am on the 2nd level on the Express Board...also know as the $10K board. And my check for $250 I received for working my business and not hoping someone else will build it for me.
Thank you all and good luck in all of your adventures :)
Dave says:
6 weeks ago
Hi
I just started on working to get into TVI and i have done some extensive checking on the company and i personally have not found any bad (verified) press on them. That why i invested my money and i am working towards that 10,000$ Yeah
to those doubters "put your money where your mouth is!!"
bcmodee says:
6 weeks ago
I'm still waiting for someone to actually explain how 15 recruits (that fills the board)x $250 = $10,000 payout. I know the payout isn't till the next board, but unless I'm wrong, no one actually pays to get on that board. Since it's been a few days, I guess no one actually knows how that can possibly be. Is that not a huge red flag to anyone out there??? Please, someone enlighten me
enlightened says:
5 weeks ago
bcmodee
These people are dreamers, they want so badly for this to be the real deal that nobody can convince them otherwise, even though commom sense tells a different story. Everybody says that they might as well try it, the travel voucher is worth the $250 right? Too bad you cant even redeem the bogus voucher. This scheme is on its last legs, I bet in the next couple of months TVI is no more. I'll bet you $250 that at leat 90% of the TVI investors also voted for Obama. Waiting on that big free payaday at everyone else's expense.
bcmodee says:
5 weeks ago
Sorry, no bet. I can't afford to lose $250. That's why I'm cautious with this.
I'm not necessarily saying this is a scam. I like to give others the benefit of the doubt. It could be that I don't understand how the matrix works. If the numbers do indeed make sense, then surely someone could show me. I find it hard to believe that out of 250,000 reps, not 1 can truly explain where the money comes from.
Randy says:
5 weeks ago
BREAKING NEWS! TVI is BROKE! MONEY GONE!
http://www.mlmwatchdog.com/RC_Scam_Pyramid.html
Choice says:
5 weeks ago
I too was really excited when I heard about the TVI Express opportunity, it was an answer to my prayers...or so I thought, until I decided to pay them a visit (I live about 15 mins drive from their offices)yesterday.
Upon arriving at Marble Arch Tower, 55 Bryanston Street
London, a building occupied by many companies, I went to Reception and asked to speak with a member of the TVI Express Team...I was told that they left the premises about 2 months ago. When I proceeded to ask for a forwarding address I was told that they didn't leave one which I questioned as I thought it rather strange for a "multinational conglomerate"...the receptionist was extremely guarded and refused to answer questions such as how long they were at the building and why they left.
I also told her that the TVI Express website still displayed their address as their trading address to which she replied that they were aware of this and trying to get it removed from the site.
Believe me I have no axe to grind...hey I wanted to take 3 spots! But I find it increasingly difficult to get over the secrecy and lack of transparency...believe you me...even if they were no longer at that address but left a forwarding address I would have most likely have signed up.
Even one of the main leaders in this thing (Kelly Williams) doesn't know their address...you don't believe me...ask him, I did (I found him to be very truthful and upfront). Although the company did say that they would be announcing the new address this month but my question is why has it taken 2 months to do this!
I just wanted to add my findings to this discussion, you do with them want you will. I wish you all the very best in your decision making.
Guerilla Trader says:
5 weeks ago
bcmodee,
It takes 8 positions on the 1st level for the Travel Board to split (8 X $250=$2000)The board has to split 4 times before you get off the top and move on to the Express Board, unless you jump over someone 1st. ($2000x4=$8000)
There are 19 top positions (from Travel Boards) feeding into the express board over me, but there are only 15 positions needed to fill the Express Board and 8 positions are needed to fill the 1st level of it before it splits. That being said, there only needs to be 8 positions taken from the 19 top Travel Board positions. Now do the math... $8000 X 8=$64.000 and that's with the Travel Board splitting one time! Remember, it has to split 4 times before you make it off the top and get paid. And also remember, there are 19 top Travel Board positions feeding into the Express Board which only needs 15 positions to fill it. You see, there's more than enough money for all of the payouts and bonuses. I hope that answers your question.
Greg Dub says:
5 weeks ago
I have no idea what are you guys talking about.
I made 71k in 2.5 months documented.
Call 760-744-9112 for proof.
bcmodee says:
5 weeks ago
Greg.
Nobody doubts your income statements. The doubt came in from the matrix being able to sustain itself mathematically, continuing paying out large sums of money. Ponzi schemes also pay out to early entrants. Read the question before you answer.
Mr. Guerilla. Thanks for your response. Finally someone who seems to have a clue. It is beginning to make sense mathematically where I can actually see where the money comes from. I'm not sure where the 19 top positions from travelers boards comes into play, but I'm getting there.
dreamsdocometrue says:
5 weeks ago
One thing I have yet to hear about TVI is... I have never heard of anyone in the USA to cash in on their vouchers and take that promised trip. I hear a whole lot about the money. So anyway, I joined DreamStyle. It is great. The payouts are $5,000 and $16,000. I talked to the owner and it is real and legitimate. Check it out: www.dreamstylegetaway.com or call me 800-774-7170.
dreamsdocometrue says:
5 weeks ago
Correction, my number is 888-774-7170, instead of 800-774-7170
Darrin Clark says:
5 weeks ago
I gotta say Matthewneer, i sure do admire your patients. There's no way in the world i could deal with this level of ignorance. But since you're dedicated to this business enough to deal with the kind of people that truly do not understand I'd like to share something with you. One of our main players from India, a fellow named Tyroon (spelling)created a wave Board. And so far this board has created 1,000 millionaires over in India. The way this system is set up you come in for $825, you create 3 slots, matt1 matt2 matt3, and you bring in one person for $825 with you. say for instance you bring joe in with you, you place joe1 with matt1 which now gives matt1 his 2, matt2 and joe1. Then you give joe2 to matt2 now matt2 has his 2, and you keep repeating the procces. The way this system is set up the Board is self generating. You come in with on person and that's it. No more sponsoring people. All you have to do is keep creating new slots. After you cycle out off the travelers board you create matt4 and matt5. Then you attache the matt4 and matt5 to someone else on the board. Lets say that stan6 only has one, you would place matt4 there. then we repeat the same process once we cycle out for the 10k. This thing is huge, my group is blowing up! We put in 60 people yesterday and have another 75 people ready to go. The demand for this board is so strong we can't get vouchers fast enough. Now from what i here there are only a couple of cells here in the US doing this, so if you really want to learn how this thing works and you're not already doing it give me a call. 877-892-3852 ask for Darrin.
Darrin Clark
matthewneer says:
5 weeks ago
Darrin,
Thank you for your comment brotha, I truly appreciate it. And yes I've had had an astounding amount of patience with this group here. It is truly amazing what people say when they are speaking from a place of fear.
Anyways, I have heard about the wave board over in India. I haven't implemented that into my business yet though. I would love to speak with you further about how it works.
I will be in touch Monday for sure,
Matthew Neer
http://MatthewNeer.com
Krys says:
5 weeks ago
OK I HAVE READ EVERYONE'S COMMENTS!...A LOT OF U PEOPLE R JUST STUPID! WHETHER THIS COMPANY IS LEGIT OR NOT I WILL TRY IT. $250....I MEAN REALLY FOR DISCOUNTS THAT'S FINE....RECRUITING PEOPLE IS OPTIONAL! "OPTIONAL" BEING THE KEY WORD!....I PERSONALLY WOULD JUST LIKE THE DISCOUNTS!.....SECONDLY...MOST TRAVEL CLUBS HAVE A MONTHLY RECURRING CHARGE!...OF MIN 30 TO 40 MIN! PLUS U HAD TO PAY A 1ST TIME MEMBERSHIP FEE!...U DO THE MATH!....SO I SAY IF THEY R A SCAM....Y NOT ASK U TO PAY MONTHLY?...THEY ASK 4 $250 FOR A LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP..NOW EVEN IF THEY FLOP IN SAY 4 TO 5 MONTHS!...I BOOKED MY VACATION SAVING AT LEAST $300 TO $400 DOLLARS MINUS MY $250 INVESTMENT!..I STILL SAVED $50-$150....AND N MY WORLD EVERY LITTLE BIT COUNTS!...AND DONT PUT UR MOUTH ON SOMETHING U NEVER TRIED...SO EVEN IF THEY FLOP...TONS OF BUSINESSES FLOP..AT LEAST THEY TRIED!
matthewneer says:
5 weeks ago
Guerilla Trader,
Thank you for your clarification on the actual numbers. That comment brings a TON of credibility to the table. When people see the actual numbers making sense then maybe gears will start turning in their heads and something will click.
Matthew Neer
Derek M says:
5 weeks ago
Matthew,
It sounds as though people are really making money at this, but I do have a few questions that I feel are relevant. Maybe you, or some other TVI members could answer them for me?
Has anybody been able to redeem the free trip vouchers, and if not why?
Does anybody know where this company is currently located? They say London, but apperantly that is not true?
What kind of a major buisness can close down its office to move to another and not already have the other office leased and announced? (They must not have located the altenate office yet, or they would have posted the address somewhere to put an end the everyones speculation)
How do the rates through TVI's booking engine compare to the other internet based companies? (Orbitz, travelocity, Ect.)Do they offer a significant savings?
Are there any other MLM companies operating in the US that use the Boards (Pyramid) system for payouts that are approved by the SEC such as Avon, Amway, Ect.
Is TVI trading on any type of stock market like any other "Multi-National Conglomerate" would? If so where can I look them up?
I have been approached several times about joining, but something does not seem quite right to me, and the only information i can find on the company is either be members promoting their own group, of people who are outright opposed to MLM. I cannot find any truly objective advice and I am hoping somebody can give unbiased answers to my questions. Thanks.
Michael says:
4 weeks ago
I am not a member asof yet. But spoke with a rep with the company and he just did redeem his vouchure for a Florida vacation for the holidays. He even explained tome the process in which he did it. That was the most important factor to me because that is the product. If the voucher works well, the Binary compensation plan will work better.
Derek M says:
4 weeks ago
Michael
Thanks for the input. Your friend seems to be the first one to have redeemed his trip as far as I know of. What was the process? It seems to me that there should not be a complicated process just to claim your vouchure. I would think you would just book it through thier engine and type in your vouchure # somewhere to claim it.
The other important question to me is how TVI rates compare to the other companies. I am fairly certain that TVI is a unsustainable pyramid type buisness that will eventually collapse, but if I can redeem my vouchure without jumping through too many hoops, and save a good amount over the free online companies, it could still be worthwhile to me. If it only costs $250 to save $500+ on a trip without any further expectations I can live with that.
Could someone who is already a member do a cost comparison for us non members? Maybe you could compare the pricing of a couple of trips head to head againg Orbitz to see what kind of a savings is offered?
loveall says:
4 weeks ago
Hi matthew
How are you today?
Have you Received your 10,000 yet and CASHED Out?
Albert Mahaffey says:
4 weeks ago
If you don't have the $250, you can join the TVI-Global Assist Team and buy 2 referrals for $77. Since people in TVI-Global Assist Team have been paid out already and I have cycled once it is not a scam. if you want to know more than go to http://www.tviglobalassistteam.com/?aff=116
Its only $77 to join and it guarantee's two referrals. The thing I like most about TVI-Global Assist Team is the anti-stall feature so if your referrals don't recruit or buy them after 14 days there slot is replace with someone else so your not affected and paying the $77 places you in a 2x2 matrix so once your account the $250 everyone from your matrix moves to the TVI Express board your pay out is instant another great thing is you still make money off your 2x2 matrix. If you want to 60K a month instead of 10K. I would refer myself six times, fill my matrix and buy my bottoms referrals. (but if you do this option use different emails and use your name in different variations) once again that address is
http://www.tviglobalassistteam.com/?aff=116
matthewneer says:
4 weeks ago
Sometimes it's really tough for people to learn the skills they need to truly succeed online. They think that buying into an opportunity or buying an information product will be the answer to their prayers but in reality all they are doing is making themselves feel like they are 'doing something'.
The reality of this is that you are only going to be successful and make a million dollars on the internet or in the MLM industry if you treat your business like a million dollar business. (What a concept huh? Shouldn't that be completely obvious?)
So for all of you that whine and complain when you don't succeed at Network Marketing maybe instead of blaming a company and calling it a scam for your failure. Maybe you should take a cold hard look at yourself in the mirror and ask "Did I do what a millionaire would do today?"
If the answer is no, or you hesitated then you've got work to do. Work to do on yourself and your mindset. Or maybe you're just not cut out for the MLM industry. It's a cut throat world...
But for those of you who need an easier way out, here it is...
http://TheSuperAffiliatesCode.com
kartur66 says:
4 weeks ago
This tvi is so legitimate it's seemingly pathetic. I know, I am in. Received my first $500 within three days of sharing this concept. you might ask HOW, well, two people alone saw and understood the business plan and could quite easily see how the maths added up to be able to pay out, and in total bought 18 memberships. Yes, this is your long term stability, get on board, especially if you've never ever achieved anything anywhere at any other time in your life.
Derek M says:
4 weeks ago
There are a lot of ways to make money that are not necessarily legit. Just because it pays doesn't make it right. Why can nobody answer my questions? They should not be difficult to answer, if the buisness is legit. There seems to be no transparency with TVI, who is in charge?
Tania Turner says:
4 weeks ago
Derek M email me and I will personally ''show and tell'' 1966tania@live.com.au there is so much to tvi that one hardly has the time to lay it all out in a book.
Have you read all of the testimonials, read the members of the admimistration board, there's alot of info. I just think you have'nt done your own research because it's not hard to find on www.tviexpress.com you just need to open that site and WOLLAH, there it all is. To expect to be spoonfed is a lot to ask because there has been plenty of that on here you need to do your own research because it is all very public and transparent, you are only wasting your time by not researching.
Derek M says:
4 weeks ago
If you have all the answers why not post them here for all to see. You are willing to take the time to share them with me so why not share them here?
Derek M says:
4 weeks ago
It seems their website is down again.......
www.tviexpress.com
MrBusinessman says:
3 weeks ago
Matthew, as you can understand from my nickname, i'm already into internet business.
I have already heard about TVI and tought is great, but after a research i've seen too bad reputation for this company. Also some good comments.
I have always seen people who say that only some of their friends from their upline were into the trip. Also noone is posting proofs, put at least a fake paypal screenshot damn it... but no sign of it.
I really would like to see this as a good company. When I call them to the number they have posted it rings 3 times and then lose connection. Too bad cause im not in London to check personally if their adress is real, but I will ask this favour to a friend. Would be cool also to see a forum of TVI.
Also I don't think that someone who is scamming people will invest in his website design. Thinking that they are in the internet from so short time they already have a bad bad bad reputation doesn't let me say this is a great opportunity.
So here is the deal... I will sign up under you if you give me the right proofs. I can bring lots of other referrals and we both will earn, but just convince me. If i earn i dont care if TVI is illegal. Wanna see where is the money, wanna see 10.000$ in your hands. If is such a trusted company and you already have done 10.000$ then there shouldnt be a problem to you to pay for my entry and then i will give you back your money.
LuxuryResorTravel says:
3 weeks ago
TVI Express is not a scam regardless of the negative feedback that it has gotten. In fact TVI Express is one of the best home based businesses right now and is exploding. The 2 problems that I see with TVI is that it costs $250 -$300 and requires 2 referrals to be qualified to earn them $10k paydays. There is an alternative that will get you into TVI for only $37 and your 2 referrals.
Go here to see the alternative
http://hubpages.com/hub/Stack-Money-The-Easy-Way-W
Tania Turner says:
3 weeks ago
Derek M the reason I offered to help you out is so that I could give you a chance at an inside look only a member can do, the receipts people have received for payments, viewing of hotels,etc can only be seen by members and you if a member permits you to see through their site, all of which would be alot faster to show you rather than type, if you were in you would understand.
As you did'nt appreciate my offer others have and I will do that for them.
This is a new company and is still experiencing some teething problems, but there is no denying money in your account, or the faces behind testimonials of what people have achieved. These people and the company would be sued , my advice to you all, go to www.tviexpress.com and click on TESTIMONIALS, the site is open every time I look so who knows what button Derek M is pushing why he claims its not, if you ask me HE MIGHT QUITE POSSIBLY BE THE OPPOSITION?
Did that ever occur to you all that negativity could be stemming from people who are not in TVI and are in some other vacation club seeking deliberately to destroy what is working for far too many for it to be denied?
1966tania@live.com.au don't ask me to pay you in, if you cant see the value in this business and what it will do for you and your family and friends, associates included, FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE...then quite simply, this business opportunity is not for you, NONE OF US GOT A FREE RIDE?
Make sense, have a good one everyone.
Tania Turner (TVI screenname is kartur66!)
Boggle minded says:
3 weeks ago
I am a member of TVI. But no one has been able to tell me how do you collect your money out of a e-wallet? How do you actually get the money in your hands? Do you just keep using your vouchers to pay for more memberships and keep their money or does the company itself actually pay you? Please explain this through your website so people can understand how you actually collected your $10,000.00. People need to understand how to collect the 10,000 once it is posted to your e wallet account. How do you get it out of the account? Do you get a check from them or what? Please explain.
MIKE says:
3 weeks ago
SCAM IT IS!
Heather says:
3 weeks ago
Hi there; I have been a member of TVI for two weeks and my first board is already halfway full.TVI is a business like anything else and in order for a business to work you have to put effort into it.I tried a program before this one it was called the Streamline Funnel System they launched in July of this year and they went through a lot of bull just with the whole process of finding a merchant account company that was big enough to accomidate them! I am no longer with that program because they charged a monthly membership fee, but in the short time that I was with them I did make money and they have tons of scam reports about them too.Now as for TVI. The reason why I joined is because it's a lifetime membership fee that you only pay once, you can book your own vacations so there's no worrying about travel agents talking you into stuff that's going to cost you extra and make them more money,not only that you make a residual income as well.The travel industry is not about to dry up any time soon so there is no worrying about it being over saturated.And as for people foolishly hoping that this will change their lives....people do that every day online and not just with TVI; you look for people that have been slapped by Google trying to make money from Adwords and you'll find a tonne of them I know because I was one of them.So for those of you who want to call TVI a scam you might as well stop using the internet alltogether because every site is on here for the same reason, to make money period.
riro says:
3 weeks ago
I totally agree with enlightened. 1. Matthew you are an absolut moron! 2. You guys are indeed really naive! 3. Please, think before you handout 250 bucks for something absurd like this! ......."invest 250$ and get vacation plus 10K??? just by recruiting 2 other retard! Oh please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
riro says:
3 weeks ago
I recommend this book. "Animal Spirits: How Human Psychology Drives the Economy, and Why it Matters for Global Capitalism" by George A. Akerlof and Robert J. Shiller.
catcha64 says:
3 weeks ago
What is it with all the doubters out in the world? I guess most of all you is that you don't get it, eh? You can't follow the math behind this. TVI Express is the smartest thing in decades and 100 $ legal. I have booked the cheapest flights you can find in the world on this site for friends and they were so exited they joined TVI Express right away and BOOKED their free 6 night stay. NO PROBLEMS! If you doubters don't have $250 to start a very lucrative business then go wash dishes at McDonalds and keep off the internet.
For those who are afraid not to find 2 people to sponsor, no worries, there is so much spill over from the top members you will most likely get to the Express board anyway. I know members who have bought themselves 3 or 4 times in to gain even more money.
For those not sure to join, I strongly advise to join right away because IT WORKS!!!
Peter
www.tviexpress.com/catcha64
silvertyke says:
3 weeks ago
So then a scenario. I pay $250 I pay two other guys $250 each to join, then I pay 4 more guys below them $250 to join. Giving free membership to 6 people will hardly be difficult. So now ! My initial capital investment is only $1750 right ? I am then apparantly going to get $10,000 back ! Cmon boys !! Also I live just 130 miles north of London and I am unable to locate them at that prestigious address. Oh and Surprise surprise its not even in the phone book.
catcha64 says:
3 weeks ago
silvertyke,
If you are willing to invest the $1750 all by yourself, then that is all what you need to qualify yourself AND the first two new members you signed up under your initial membership. Meaning, you are now qualified for $30,000!!! But, you will have to wait until the 3 qualified positions moved through the Traveller board and then the Express board. YOU WILL EVENTUALLY EARN THE $30,000, depending how much support the boards receive from the other members on these boards. You have to understand how the system works. But I can tell you that a total of $20,000 are being paid until for one member to receive the $10,000 cash + $5,000 travel vouchers.
They have moved their location in London to:
Lakeside House
1 Furzeground Way
Stockley Park
Heathrow
UB11 1BD
United Kingdom
If you are really interested in this check out this link www.tviexpress.com/catcha64 and take the tour, or send me an email and I'll send you a PowerPoint presentation which will open your eyes.
Peter
pm.travelinfo@gmail.com
catcha64 says:
3 weeks ago
I got the figures from somebody else and checked them today and have to tell you guys, that they are incorrect. The total amount being paid to TVI Express until 1 member cycles out of the Express Board is $56,250. So, you can see there is plenty of profit for TVI and still plenty left for commissions.
Peter
www.tviexpress.com/catcha64
catcha64 says:
3 weeks ago
I got the figures from somebody else and checked them today and have to tell you guys, that they are incorrect. The total amount being paid to TVI Express until 1 member cycles out of the Express Board is $56,250. So, you can see there is plenty of profit for TVI and still plenty left for commissions.
Peter
www.tviexpress.com/catcha64
Derek M says:
3 weeks ago
So you are saying that 225 people must join at $250.00 each before 1 person can cycle out? How long do you think that can be sustained? For every 100 people that get the payoff there are 22,500 new members waiting. For every 1,000 people that cycle out there are 225,000 people waiting. Just for the 225 people that joined directly behind the original member there must be 50,625 new members behind them in order for them to recieve a payout. If the entire world population of approximatly 6 billion people joined (that is 6,000,000,000) only a little more than 26 million of them would actually have a chance to cyle 1 board. Would you buy a raffle ticket for $250 at a chance for $10,000 if you knew that they were selling 225 tickets? The odds are not in your favor. Somebody will be getting rich over this and the odds are that it is not you.
Afrodite says:
2 weeks ago
Hi. Can anybody share an experience of using the vouchers or certificate at any Hotels mentioned by TVI? How was it? Thanks
Mason Risher says:
2 weeks ago
TVI has NO Contacts with ANY Travel Provider. Period, end of story. Anyone who says they do is lying. They state right on there own website that travel is through a THIRD PARTY Provider. TVI has ZERO contracts with any companies name they try to use to provide cover for this scheme. It is a con-artists attempt to provide legitimacy to the uninformed. It is a smoke screen and out and out lie that this is anything but a pure and true PONZI scheme.
catcha64 says:
2 weeks ago
I have personally booked travel on the TVI site. A flight for a friend from Switzerland to Vancouver for $818.00 all taxes included and a for my sister and her husband I booked a flight from Switzerland to New York for $590.00 they use the hotel voucher in New York and then fly to Toronto and back to New York for another $343, they were amazed about the price their best offer from Switzerland was $1248.00 for a flight from Zuerich to Toronto. Also I checked out a vacation package for a guy from Edmonton today, trip to Punta Cana, Dominican Republic, 4 star Hotel all inclusive, $1342.00 all taxes incl. Same trip at Travelocity was 2167.00. The 6 night hotel voucher works that way, that you have to tell TVI when you want to go to where and then you receive a list with available hotels (3-5 star).
And Derek M, it has nothing to do with a raffle or with odds, it is a business. You will have to work hard to get new members on board and remember you get a hotel voucher for the $275 membership fee. But more importantly, the travel deals alone make it worthwhile if you intend to travel.
But from all the negative postings here, I can tell that people are afraid of anything that comes with a price tag. But any business has investment costs and nothing comes for free and I understand that there will always be the nay sayers because they are too lazy to look into it or just don't have $275 to put up in the first place.
Derek M says:
2 weeks ago
Catcha
This has a lot to do with the odds and it is not a Buisness, it is a scheme.
You misled silvertyke by saying "YOU WILL EVENTUALLY EARN THE 30,000". That is far from fact. You will only get paid if 225 people join under you, you said so yourself by stating " The total amount being paid to TVI Express until one member cycles out of the Express Board is $56,250" 250 x 225 = 56,250. Every time someone cashes out, the Board splits so there are probably thousands of boards right now. If you got in early your odds may be good, but for everyone that makes it there are 225 new members still in limbo. Everytime someone wins everybody elses odds go down. As soon as the stupid pool dries up there will be a lot of diappointed people.
I have very serious doubts about your price claims also. There are plenty of REAL buisnesses out there such as Orbitz, Travelocity, Priceline, Ect. that have actual ties to the Airlines, Hotels, Ect. If you have ever searched more than one of them at a time you will notice that they all have the same prices. That is because they all have deals with the actual companies so that they all get the same bottom dollar prices. You should try comparing the actual same flight # on the same day, from the same Airline. If TVI is actually cheaper all of the above companies will soon be out of buisness since they all have a low price gaurantee. Do you really think the major Airlines are going to put their biggest retailers out of buisness because of some scam astists. I seriously doubt your figures are an accurate comparison.
Bottom line this IS a smoke and mirrors SCAM disguised as a travel buisness. As I stated before I am not doubting that some people who have made some money, but for everyone that did there are 225 that still have not, while an unknown group of scammers running the company are getting rich off of people like you and your followers for doing nothing.
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2 weeks ago
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JD says:
2 weeks ago
Whoopee!!! Duh... I can get rich as a lazy dumb-ass... and make tons of money while I sleep. Duh... where can I sign up? Really.... you lazy good for nothing pyramid-schemers have no conscience... signing up & duping friends and family to accommodate your avarice and "get rich guild" mentality. You're a bunch of losers... because others are participating and receiving nothing so you can scam on. Disgusting! Get a job!
catcha64 says:
2 weeks ago
JD,
since you obviously have nothing to do with these 'schemes', what the heck brought you to this site????
And, next time you comment on something, do yourself a favor and get yourself educated about it.
Merry Christmas to you.
Kimberly says:
2 weeks ago
Hi guys!
I just wanted to stop by, and give my 2 cents. . .LOL!!! My name is Kim, and I am from Atlanta, Ga. I am currently involved with TVI, and I will tell you my personal experience. I joined in October of 2009, and I was sponsored by my boyfriend. We were told about this opportunity by a friend who plays pro sports. So in any event, I was a little skeptical, because it sounded too good to be true! So, needless to say. I didn't join immediately, but my boyfriend did!. So I didn't think much about about it. Well about 2 weeks went by, and he received an email in his yahoo account from the company stating he had received 500.00(250 cash, 250 voucher) in his back office.Once I saw that, I jumped in head first. Within my first 6 days of joining, I convinced 2 friends to join as well. Once the board split, I jumped ahead of people who didn't sponsor 2! I was ecstatic. Since then I have personally brought in over 16 people, thus helping me get to the pay out much faster. Listen i can't tell you this is for everybody, but I made a decision thatt was good for me. When I thought about the alternatives out there, I knew it would tale over 3 years of working a job at 150k to take car of all my credit card debt, not to mention my other debt, and that job is not available to me. People I was drowning! This is been a life raft, and if you are reading this, you are probably drowning as well. I wish everyone much success, if they can find something to get them out of this financial mess, whether it's TVI or not. But if you would like to know more, and just talk to a real person, that's not trying to sell you, then feel free to contact me at kkarrington@gmail.com. I wish you much happiness.
Kindest regards,
Kimberly
Jay San Juan says:
10 days ago
all I hear is chatter. I just want to hear someone who actually got paid their first $10,000. Just one. Crazy how people just refuse to earn money nowadays. They just hop anything that promises them money. Theres only one thing that all successful people have in common and that's HARD WORK.
Gideon Ibrahim says:
7 days ago
You have to sign in : http://solidtrustpay.42y.biz before you widraw your money from your e-wallet TVI Express.
You can joint with out recruiting people, be come a member TVI express (just only $ 250.00) and get your Cheapes price Trip ticket, but if you want the comission (Extra money),then you have to work!...nothing for FREE in life!.
is it FAIR or SCAM?....
jazz says:
6 days ago
uhh....its still a Scam. and its DEFINITELY not fair.
cuz i know i can get those 'cheap' prices without having to pay the $250 dollars. Absolutely free, i can get amazing travel deals.
Lets be honest here. Name 1 person that joined TVI solely for the 'travel discounts' and not AT ALL for the opportunity attached.
1 person?... yeah, i think not.
catcha64 says:
5 days ago
jazz,
I know two....I recruited them myself and they joined only because of the deal. But you forgot the 6 night stay in a 3-5 star hotel ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. That's what people brings in here too. And then they go out, spread the word and recruit people anyway.
Get it?
Gideon Ibrahim says:
5 days ago
Too Much people No Action Talk Only (NATO), you want to get $10.000,00 then, work!.... not only talk and talk and talk....even in TVI Express, nothing easy if you just Talk Only!....just Do it!...
is it Fair or Scam?....
Michelle says:
3 days ago
Anyone looking to do this business must truly do their due diligence. If something smells funny or fishy with this company, please listen to your intuitive sense. Remember what happened with Bernie Madoff.
Carina Franco says:
35 hours ago
Hi Matthew
I know you because of Katie Freiling, and I happened to be on your list because of her.
Now I have a couple of questions.
Is this opportunity open in Canada? I live there. I know I will be able to sell in US since it is online, but can I do it if I am establish in Canada?
If I want to book a trip like your friend that went to the U2 concert how can I do that, I guest you don't have to be a member to do so, do you?
How and where did you find out this:
"TVI Express has almost ALL of the major travel corporations backing them. Those companies would NOT be involved in something that is a scam."
Where can I see which corporations are involved and that they are 100% with tvi express?
do they offer any online marketing training for people to learn how to promote the company?
for the $250 do you get your 6 day trip no matter what?
have you claimed your trip yet? when did you start with tvi express?
Thank you so much in advance?
Carina
Thursday, 12 November 2009
Wednesday, 11 November 2009
TVI Express for 90 Recruits in 90 Days
The allure of traveling the world for $250 was almost too good for me to even pass up. When I first heard of TVI Express, through a friend, I was instantly reminded of another mlm company called YTB International, that the feds shut down very quickly, due to fraud. There are many similarities to TVI Express and YTB.
The bait is the 5 night 6 day vacation of a lifetime with a return plane ticket for only $250. First red flag: Why is the return flight paid for and not a round trip ticket? The reason is, that these vacation packages are bogus, and they know that most people will not have the money to purchase a plane ticket to get there. Therefore, they are banking on the fact that most people will not even inquire into the trip. I mean why would hotels be willing to sell their room for a week at any resort in the world for $250?
The second bait is the fact that you can make $15,000 in 2 - 3 weeks. Beware, $5000 is in free travel and $10,000 supposedly will hit your bank account. Folks, anytime a company says you can make $10,000 in three weeks from a $250 "investment", RUN!!!! There is no such thing!
All of this is based on a compressed matrix. That means you get in line, and as more and more people get in you move up the ladder and when you reach the top, you get the money. This is all good, but what happens when you get there and find out there is no money, because the people that started this have skipped town with your money. This is what happened to YTB.
My advice is, stay away from this one. Definetly a scam! There are better opportunities out there to recruit masses of people.
LATEST DEVELOPMENT! I just recently found out that the travel vouchers from TVI Express can be purchased by anyone for $2.99 each!! You do not have to pay $250.00 for the vacation package. These are bought through an incentive wholesaler and are available to the general public!!
For more tips like this go to www.90recruitsin90days.com.
Posted by 90recruitsin90days at 1:54 PM
101 comments:
labefam said...
You are incorrect YTB is still up and running. Check your facts before you post
September 22, 2009 12:03 PM
Colin Buckingham - Global Internet Entrepreneur said...
I was approached by someone else about TVI and I did some research after I
had watched the two videos, especially the one about the comp plan. I think
this is a gigantic international scam/pyramid scheme, even though it sounds
very enticing and some people will make some money at this. The first red
flag was that they do not accept credit cards but you can buy sign-up
vouchers or wire the money to the company. On the videos there is virtually
no reference to making money from the travel business, only from recruiting
people. The company is supposed to be based in London but they are not at
the address on their website. This was a virtual office and I spoke to the
management company of this building and he said TVI “had packed up their
bags overnight and disappeared with no forwarding address”. This apparently
happened a couple of months ago. If you call the customer service number it
rings three times and then disconnects (I tried 10 times). I sent them an
email last week asking for details of their management team and they have
not replied yet (although they promise 48 hour service). Interestingly
enough they have been loading up new videos on their website this week but
the address and phone number are the same! It is rumored the owner is of
Indian descent and the bank they use is in Cypress. So if someone wants to
send their money to a reputed Indian national who has a phantom office in
London and a bank account in Cypress then I wish them all the luck in the
world!
September 26, 2009 3:49 PM
Dave said...
Thanks for the info. I do have oe question though. With all the programs out there, then you have people like yourself exposing these companies, then promoting your own books, ideas, or theories, or even business. Who is anyone going to believe? Why should any of us hard working people want to waste our time and money on any of these businesses. Just a thought!
September 30, 2009 5:56 PM
Jeff Donovan said...
Who are the principals of TVI Express? I keep reading "backed by strong investor group"...who are they? I keep reading everyone doing this but I can't seem to validate who the founders and management team are? Does anyone know names, phonne nnumbers, and management team contact information?
October 20, 2009 7:00 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Here is where you get some excelent information on TVI Express that will be able to answer most of your questions: http://mlmhelpdesk.com/2009/09/28/tvi-express-is-still-on-the-mlm-scam-radar-at-mlm-help-desk/
October 20, 2009 7:18 PM
LLDDSS said...
has anyone been on a trip through TVI or has anyone been scammed and could not go on the trip. I need some answers on what do believe!!
October 21, 2009 11:05 AM
LLDDSS said...
to believe lol.) If the trip was what they say why wouldnt the TVI company work for me, if they were to lie and most people were not able to go on the trip due to obstacles almost impossible to over come then the company would be a scam.The first impression would be the answer to the credibility of TVI I would think.
October 21, 2009 11:18 AM
90recruitsin90days said...
I know of noone that has been on any trip with TVI. The fact that they only give you a return plane ticket is a red flag to me. They know that in today's economy, noone will be able to afford the departure flight price. I know of several people that actually gave their trips away once they got them, due to the fact that they were time share promotions. You can get those type of free trips at anytime without going through TVI Express!
October 21, 2009 11:25 AM
LLDDSS said...
Thats the answer I was looking for.
Thanks
October 21, 2009 12:24 PM
Leelavathi said...
Why cant check it Before Posting ,
http://tviexpressblog.info
October 29, 2009 7:49 AM
st.fe said...
Ok Guys my question is why don't you all do your own research? I did & personaly know of 3 people who have used the Tviexpress Holiday Vouchers successfully & others who have used thy'er discounts on flights and Hotels have saved up to 60% on thy'er stay.
I also know of family friends who have received the $15000 4 times already and are receiving the residual incomes. Why wouldn't you be able to afford the departure ticket when you have access to discounts on all flights? If indeed there are other companyies offering a 7day/6night stay in a 5 star hotel/resort with return ticket included please do let me know Sir.
October 30, 2009 12:38 AM
Richard Ferris said...
There is a lot of information out there on the web - pros and cons - and it certainly can seem overwhelming.
I am sure there are people who have been successful with this - there always are with any venture.
The real question is weather this is a viable business model which can last for a decade or more...or....is it just a money game where some people will make money in the short run and one day - the last in line will have to lose again?
One rule I have for myself, is I will not get involved with a company, nor promote a company to my friends and family, which doesn't already have more than 10 years of a track record.
And if a company is a "start up" - it better have a stellar management team with a track record, and I would still be cautioning everyone I introduced it to to be aware of the risk.
Every company has to start somewhere - I know. Just measure the risk vs reward. Other companies with long track records (over 10 years) may not have the enticing rewards offered in something like TVI....but you can bank on them likely not folding overnight.
October 30, 2009 4:48 AM
90recruitsin90days said...
Excelent comment!! I agree 100%. There may be lots of good compnies out there that are in the start up stages, but this one is one that is already being looked by the regulators
October 30, 2009 4:54 AM
october said...
robert this guy who helps do the reeling 'em in for a pyramid scheme called xzotto, has already received his $15,000. i dont know if this is absolutely true or not. but my family knows him and he claims to have received the money. either way my mothers a ditz for trying out all these different scams, but i'm just trying to watch out for her.
November 1, 2009 9:04 PM
Mike said...
Everyone that I have ever talked to about TVI Express has known someone else but themselves who has received a check for $15,000, but the funny part is, when I ask for proof of their check stub, or a bank account statement, noone has ever been able to produce that. I would stay away from this.
November 1, 2009 9:12 PM
Match said...
I believe a return ticket and round trip are one and the same. It's just thee way the brits say it. They call it round trip in the U.S. They call it return trip in the U.K. LOL! you could at least done the research on that! hahahahha!
Please do better research in general. I say the best way to know how tvi express works is to try it yourself....and that's what I'm going to do.
November 4, 2009 2:11 AM
Mike said...
I have asked repeatedly to show me at least 3 people that have actually used the travel vouchers, or that have actually had a deposit of money into their bank account from TVI Express, and I have yet to have anyone come forward with proof that this works. Until I have proof, this is a scam!
November 4, 2009 5:07 AM
Bruce said...
Personal opinions are always welcome I quess? Especially when you don't have all the facts and really just want to promote your business. Most people who have never built an organization of any size, tend to try to sell people on training, making people believe they have all the answers and teach them how to get rich quick on their special system!!! The website is full of you people.
Bruce
November 4, 2009 5:39 PM
just looking for facts not opinions said...
my question is to the 90 day guy, did you actually join TVI first hand and you know for sure that you will not get paid nor be able to book any real trip?
November 6, 2009 10:23 AM
William said...
Has anyone heard of this new prelaunch oppty called Juugo?? It has a similar matrix, just different amounts. $445 to start with $6,000 payout at the end of the leader board.
Will N..in New Mexico.
November 6, 2009 1:56 PM
Michael W Wyrosdick said...
You guys really come up with some amazing boloney! I have been in TVI for 2 weeks and already produced results. You all talk about scam this and scam that, but you know nothing about how it works. It shows in you posts. I would suggest that you revisit the website and watch the PowerPoint presentation under the resources tab. http://tviexpress.com/travel4wealth
November 6, 2009 4:59 PM
Will said...
I guess you can't really comment until you've actually lost money in this deal. That's too bad. But for me I just made my decision. If it seems too good to be true........it probably is, thanx for the heads up...
Will N.
November 7, 2009 1:20 PM
shyracat said...
People are funny! An opportunity has been presented to make money by putting $250 at RISK for a few weeks time. I made MY OWN decision after talking to others that have made $10,000 or more, did what was expected in bringing in TWO people that will get TWO who will do the same and I DOUBLED my money in TWO WEEKS -- $500. ANY new venture holds a risk! IF one enters in knowing it could be flushing $250 down the toilet... that's simply the variable consideration of RISK against potential GAIN. Risk is what one takes in any business venture. Speaking from my own experience with tvi, I've paid myself back and everything after that is simply gravy. If it works and I receive 10K in the next few weeks...GREAT...IF not, what have I lost?
November 7, 2009 4:49 PM
jmanagement.james said...
I find this to be very interesting. Usually people who speak against a product, company etc, is someone who has used them personally. Therefore making the comment valid. Well I can tell you first hand that this company is legitimate. I have been very fortunate to have been in this business for the last 2 weeks, and have already received my 500.00. As well as 3 others that I have personally sponsored(they have also received theirs). I was introduced to this program from a personal friend. I was skeptical at first, but I did my due diligence, and pursued the idea. Once I paid my 250.00, I was emailed my 6 day/7 night voucher that allows me to stay anywhere in the world. I then proceeded to book it, to see if it was valid. At that time listings to several hotels that accepts this voucher were emailed to me(I called the hotels as well, they verified the info). They all are 3-5 star hotels. I was impressed. So I proceeded to get 2 friends involved, and that qualified me for the 500.00. 6 days later, I received $250.00, and 250.00 traveler's voucher. I then transferred my money to my bank account, and sold my voucher for 250.00. So looking pretty good so far. Now I am on the "Express" board, where my friend has just received his 10k! Yes, , , ,his 10k, and guess what I am next in line. So I said all this to say, that I am very real. I live in Atlanta GA, and I can be contacted. So if anyone is interested in moving forward, let me know. I will be more than happy to help you obtain financial success. Good luck, and God bless. I can be contacted at jmanagement.james@gmail.com, or contact me on my twitter @ http://twitter.com/jmanagement3579. Leave me a message! or call me at 646.339.7770
http://tviexpressveryreal.blogspot.com/2009/11/tvi-express-is-very-real.html
November 9, 2009 9:54 AM
Ray said...
I have read the above blog and all of the comments. No one has asked "Where is the money coming from"? If you pay in $250 and will get $15,000 in three weeks, where is the money coming from? No products are sold for income. The only source of money is the membership, i.e. those $250's. So, what you receive, the $15000, is the money from the new joiners. This is a money game. You use Peter's money to pay Paul. The company must have learned it from Madoff. Look this case could go on for years! How long did Madoff enjoy his freedom? As long as there are enough new moneys to pay off the old commissions, the problem doesn't surface. But if you don't get to travel as promised, that another matter.
Another thing, if you get some of the pay in vouchers, that's not good either. Vouchers are not even as good as IOU's. The latter admit that he/she/it/or they owe you. You have recourse. But vouchers are like tickets. If you don't use them they are no good to you. If you can sell them, you're okay. But can you take them to the Company and ask for money instead? Good luck to you. That's why they pay you in vouchers in the first place.
The Company not accepting credit cards? Why not? No charge back, no liability. Clever!
Well enough comments. I hope I am wrong. I wish you all the success in this venture. But if you see something gone sour, don't hesitate. Do the right thing IMMEDIATELY. Help stop the "swine flu". Save financial lives of fellow members.
November 9, 2009 5:07 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Here's how it works. It's not as easy as everybody thinks. You have to get 10 people to join in order for you to hit the first board which gives you $500. In order to reach the top of the second board you essentially have to have 150 people in your downline in order to qualify for the second board that pays you $15,000. $10,000 is cash and $5000 is travel vouchers. It would have just been simpler to have gotten all those people to pay you instead of TVI Express. Think about it, 10 people in the first board, and 150 people in the second board equals 160 people times $250 equals $40,000!! Instead the company keeps $30,000 and pays you $10,000.
November 9, 2009 5:41 PM
pajki said...
Hi everybody!What about the vacation package????Nobody has talked about it!!!!!And what about the 5000$ travelling voucher????Nobody has talked about it!!!!!So...How is it possible?????????????????????????????????????????????????
November 10, 2009 2:10 AM
Mike said...
The travel package is nothing more than a time share pitch. You will have to sit down for about 2 hours and go through a sales pitch in order to get the travel voucher!
November 10, 2009 5:01 AM
john said...
Wow, just WOW, so many ignorant posts from people who know nothing about TVI. WOW!
For starters, think about this people. Who do you book your travel with? Orbitz, Travelocity, Expedia or maybe an agent? How can those companies be in existance? Whats the product? How do they make money?
Do you know what Orbitz spends on TV commercials alone? Where is the money coming from? Think people.
We now have a company that is exploding onto the scene with NO Overhead. TVI now has close to a 1/2 million members. Where do you think they will go to book their travel? Thats right, there very own TVI members office.
I bought in, I bought 3 memberships, a total of $750.00, I have already made $1,000.00 and am on 2 $10,000.00 boards.
When Bill Gates was going public with Microsoft in the early 70's ya think people were jumping in for the IPO? No way!
A new travel giant is emerging, much like the computer industry. A lot of people can't see the forrest through the trees.
My advice, get in while the gettin is good!!
November 10, 2009 10:41 AM
john said...
Oh, and Mike, there is no sitting down listening to a presentation for the travel. Why the outright lies? Or is it just stupidity?
November 10, 2009 10:43 AM
Mike said...
Noone has yet come forward to provide proof that they have gotten a deposit in the amount of $10,000 in their account from TVI Express. They always say that they are on the second board, or they say they are next in line to get the $10,000 deposit, but for some reason that moment never comes.
November 10, 2009 11:26 AM
pajki said...
Hey John!You also have answered like the others!No facts,only blabla...Have you already used your vacation package???????Has anybody used it?And the 5000$ traveller voucher?????I'm in TVI!I WANT USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 10, 2009 2:37 PM
nauticaltennis said...
I got scammed by TVI Express. I paid $250 for a 5 night stay in Mexico and never seen a ticket. The claim is open til this day with my credit card company.
November 10, 2009 8:45 PM
john said...
Mike, FYI, I can introduce you to 5 people in my home town of who have cashed out $10,000.00 or more. 5 people in less than 90 days! Yes I have proof.
November 11, 2009 1:15 PM
Mike said...
How me the money!! I want bank account statements!!
November 11, 2009 1:18 PM
pajki said...
John!I dont care about the money!It was not a question!I know many people were paid!But what about the product?WHAT ABOUT THE VACATION PACKAGE?????!
November 11, 2009 1:39 PM
phillip said...
HI
HOW ARE YOU ,I HAVE MADE MONEY W/TVI AS WELL ,500.00 ALREADY,NO 2 I AM ON MY WAY OUT OF EXPRESS BOARD,THIS IS THE REAL DEAL,SO DONT ASSUMNE THINGS WHO EVER YOU ARE 90 DAY GUY,PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE VERY JEALIOUS OF A GREAT BUSS OPPTY ,FOR THERE OWNS MEANS,YOU SHOULD GET INVOLED TO SEE FOR YOURSELF,DONT BE SO NEGATIVE.
November 12, 2009 2:40 PM
Vim said...
I am an artist firstly and also have been designing websites. I have been researching home businesses for a few years and have also been building sites for people in Home business for the past year. I have been really disappointed to see a lot of them struggling, trying to make their money back and spending loads of money marketing and it just not working for them. About 2 months ago a friend (who I met while designing his website) suggested that I have a look at a new business opportunity. I did.. (was a little reluctant at first) and I have joined. I have never felt so good about something in my heart and believe in it, everything that is suggested about it has been true for me and I have seen people have success, the greatest thing with this is really the team support.. it's not just about getting to the top yourself, but helping those who come in with you. If I help you I help myself. There is a small investment to join $275 USD but it is Really worth it.. my sponsor has doubled his initial investment on 2 of his accounts already in under 6 weeks and he is on his way to making the $10k twice for his accounts. It is not hard to sell, most people I know, including myself have sold this on to family and friends - you do not need to outlay money on advertising.. you get a website with a great back office system when you join as well as lifetime membership to travel discounts. This does truly tick all the boxes for me. I have seen people mention it is only in Asia, but it is in prelaunch in the United States and Australia, and has had over 300,000 people join since it launched in Asia and prelaunch in U.S - their Alexa ranking shows the proof.. they are backed by some amazingly reputable companies, and all I have seen is posititive.
If you are interested in learning more or have ANY questions please ask me.. I am really passionate about this because I can see it works and it is also an environment where people are helping each other..
my site is http://www.tviexpress.com/citrine1
also you can see a really great video here (this is my sponsors site http://www.meetplanb.com/eng/gerrywitenden
and I also have another site I am an artist firstly and also have been designing websites. If you are interested in learning more or have ANY questions please ask me.. I am really passionate about this because I can see it works and it is also an environment where people are helping each other..
If you are interested in learning more or have ANY questions please ask me.. I am really passionate about this because I can see it works and it is also an environment where people are helping each other..
I also have another site which is http://www.simpleglobalbusiness.com/citrine1
You can email me flametreecandles@hotmail.com I can put you in touch with a lady I know personally who has made her $10k also my sponsor who has made his $500 on 2 of his accounts and withdrawn the cold hard cash.
Vimala
November 12, 2009 10:21 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Vimala, you seem to be a very nice person, and I respect that you are excited about the opprtunity, however you mentioned that you like the fact that people are helping you. I think if your upline thought that he could make $10,000 for "helping" you he will show that he really cares for you. You also mentioned that he bought 2 accounts. This raises a red flag. Why did he have to buy 2 accounts? Also, you mentioned that you heard about someone actually receiveing $10,000. This is the most common red flag. Everyone on these posts, and everyone that I have ever talked to has heard of someone receiving $10,000, but noone has yet to show me proof. Just like, lots of people heard that Bernie Maddoff has an ivestment that returs 12% guaranteed, but very few people made that return!
November 13, 2009 4:01 AM
Geoff Holliday said...
what i dont get is is it true that they dont accept credit card for enrollment ? why is that
November 13, 2009 2:39 PM
Mike said...
That's another thing that's fishy about the whole thing. Who doesn't take credit cards?
November 13, 2009 3:26 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
Hi again,
In terms of helping people I am talking about now I am in a position where I am going to be helping my downline - I have filled my positions and yes I have 3 positions because I wanted to buy them.. I didn't have to but wanted to, and my sponsor also chose to have more than one position. Some people who have joined under me have bought one position others have bought 3. So no red flag there just about choice. As I mentioned before I do know someone personally and a lot of other people (who I communicate with) who have received their $10,000 I did say if anyone wants to see that proof I can show them. In terms of the holiday I have pre booked mine this morning, and no it's not time share. The reason the company is not accepting credit cards at this point in time (they were in the beginning) is that in one week the were hit with huge amounts of fraud from China. They are working on setting up another more secure way to do it at the moment. I can understand this and especially with over 300,000 members. I'm not here to defend TVI because they don't need defending, I just want to answer some of the questions clearly. It is a great company with a great opportunity. I was also in my back office.. in my travel part and was checking out the prices for their airfare deals and they are VERY well priced. I did a comparison with their prices in peak and non peak seasons and they have great deals. Send me an email ask me some questions or do it on here.. I don't want to waste time answering people who just want to slander it, but people who genuinely have a question and want an answer.
November 13, 2009 4:08 PM
pajki said...
The pre-booking is not on hold yet!But what the f..k is going here????I have to give my credit card details,expiration date+CVC code!!!Am is stupid?????????????????Should I give my details to a phantom company????????!!!!!No thanx!I'm no crazy...Why do they need that?It is just a pre-confirmation!I'll get the offer later!And very interesting,they afford my credit card now!I think I sell my position.Is anybody interested in?!
November 14, 2009 10:20 AM
90recruitsin90days said...
Pajki, are you saying that they now accept credit cards, and you have to give it to them before you even sign up?
November 14, 2009 12:06 PM
pajki said...
Yes!I went to my back office and redeemed my certificate.I could verify it and then "proceed to pre-booking".On the "booking portal" I have to give my personal details,travel details(when&where I want go for my holiday to)+my card details:Card type,card number,CVC/CVV2 code,expiration date+name on card!!!And as a solution they accept my VISA/MASTERCARD now!!!Unbelievable...
November 14, 2009 1:23 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
Pajki, 90 recruits asked you a question which you have given an incorrect answer to. NO 90 recurits, you don't need to give them your credit card before you sign up. They are still not accepting credit cards. In regards to prebooking of your free six night 7 day travel, they do require your credit card as ANY hotel or resort, accomodation anywhere be it a caravan park requires your credit card and they do clearly state the reason they take it, is not for THEM to charge you but for the security for the hotel/accomodation. I think you better go back and read it carefully Pajki before you mouth off about it. Are you receiving help from your upline to understand things? Can I ask are you seriously considering selling your position and if so what is your username? I am sure I or someone I know will considering buying it. Whats your id?
Vimala
November 14, 2009 3:01 PM
pajki said...
Hi Vimala!I answered 90 recruits' question!I said they asked this details at the pre-booking system!Why do you think they asked??!Was it a joke or what?!I know they can not accept credit cards as a sign up!They need my credit card's details at the booking!We dont know anything about tvi.Should I give them my details?I dont think so...How can I believe in it with many issues?!If I ask your credit card number+details will you give me???!!!! And yes,I really want sell my position!My id:pajki
November 14, 2009 3:32 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Homemade Candles and Pajki, what does it mean to "sell your position"?
November 14, 2009 5:53 PM
Unacceptable Since 1945 said...
Where does the money come from to pay out so many thousands of dollars? It comes from the $250 fee. And, this is illegal. This is how a ponsi scheme is set up. The incoming money pays for the people who are in first. When not enough money is coming in as the scam becomes saturated the scheme crashes and the creators run with the money they've taken out for themselves.
Don't even think of having your own yacht or private jet. This offer is beyond incredible.
In order for this scam to be legal the money would need to come from sales of holiday packages and in a multi-level plan that money would be broken down on a downline much this way:
*Your sale -- you get, let's say, 10%
*Your direct downline each gets 10% of each of their own sales and passes up, let's say 5% to you
*Your secondary downline gets 10% for each of their direct sales, passes up 5% to to their upline and passes up, let's say, 2% to you.
So you make a sale of $2000.
Your 10% is $200.
Your direct downline is 10 people who each sell $2000 getting themselves 10% or $200. They pay up to you 5% each. That is $100 each making you direct downline pay you 10 times 100 equalling $1000.
Your secondary downline does the same and lat's say your secondary downline equals 20 people who pay you 2%, their upline sponsor 5% and they keep 10% of the direct sale of, let's still say, $2000 of which 2% equalls $40.
So 20 secondary sales paying you 2% gives you $800.
Please pay attention to this. The money comes from sales not from sign up fees. Sign up fees paying back thousands of dollars can only collapse.
November 15, 2009 3:10 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Very good assesment Unacceptable Since 1945!! That is very well put. There must be a product that is exchanged in order for it not to be a pyramid scheme. A vacation does not qualify as a product!!
November 15, 2009 3:53 PM
Freedomlive-TVIexpress said...
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This is amazing, now 4 days old and hundreds
of members. It costs just $49 and it's paying
out approximately 11.75% a day!
So you can be in profit in just 9 days, then
use a % of subsequent profits to purchase more $49 profit modules.
Here are the details :
The program opened on Thursday this week and is open to new members for a limited time. Mike Filsaime is very excited
about this program and I am sure that most of you know who he is.
The admin are experts at making money from
Google Ad words - lots of money and we get to share whatever they make - and it's a lot!
Effectively we are joining a pool of like
minded investors in this. A profit module
costs just a one-off $49 and you can purchase more profit modules if you like at any time,
and each module will continuously earn money competely passively. And it's paying out every hour at an aproximate total of 11.75% a day.
Read all about it on the front page at:
http://googlemlmcash.com?ref=2207
and you can sign up for free
- sponsor name: googlerich
Click on the picture of their Google account
and see the sort of figures that the admin
are dealing in - it is almost 2 million dollars!
When you are ready to purchase a profit module ... it costs just $49 with a credit card, Liberty Reserve or Alertpay.
For those that share this program with others, you get 10% on your first level and 2.5% on
your second and third level - that's the MLM
part of this program, but mainly it's a very
simple passive income program, so don't be
put off by the MLM bit in the name.
UPDATE: I have just heard from a colleague on what admin are saying as to the expected daily return:
"The amount paid per deposit is directly
determined by out adwords earning trends.
You can rest assured that your daily percentage of your deposit that you will be earning will never be less than 7.5%/day
and no more than 50% a day.
I hope this clears up any confusion.
Best Wishes,
Support"
Until I saw this, I had no idea what the
earnings would be, except that the returns
will no doubt be good and continuous.
Each $49 profit module lasts for ever as
far as I can see. Go and sign up for free:
http://googlemlmcash.com?ref=2207
- sponsor name: googlerich
November 16, 2009 5:45 AM
tgustin said...
So many of you are saying you have yet to personally talk to anyone who has made their 10K. I have already talked to 2 people..personally, many times who are in my upline. They will take you or anyone in their back office and SHOW you online where they were paid their money. This company is 100% legitimate and the people who are in are SEEING the results and getting paid. It took me a few days and time on the phone with the people on my team who have been in this business for the last couple of months. I am telling you that it's the real deal. If anyone wants to see proof, I will get these people on the phone with you and if you are by a computer, they will personally take you into their online back office and SHOW YOU their 10K and also their commissions. These are everyday people who are doing this. I was SO skeptical at first...I spend days researching this before I got in. Do you think companies like Hallmark and RCI would be affiliated with them if it was just some ponzi scheme. Of course if you're intelligent, you will doubt this whole thing at first. But, here's the facts..this company is 100% legitimate and the people who are in and making their money will be happy to show you the proof. Feel free to contact me and I will get you on the phone with the people on my team who have already made their money and about to cycle out again before Christmas. Let me know...send me your email or phone number and I will call you.
November 16, 2009 10:40 AM
pajki said...
People who are always talking about the payout!Why dont you understand this?!Just because people are getting paid so far,doesnt mean it is legal!!!The facts are:unreal adress,they dont answer the phone,nobody has used the vacation package...It seems money makes people crazy...
November 16, 2009 12:31 PM
Vim said...
90 recruits, to sell your position is simply that since Pajki is unhappy instead of having them clog up the board someone in their upline can purchase that position. It takes a little bit of mucking around but it can be done. Tgustin, I know what you are saying, I speak directly with some people who have made multiple $10k and also know people who have taken holidays with the heavy discounts.
Pajki, there is an address we have all been given it and evidence of the new office they are setting up. I am not sure if you have called (in the right timezone) now there has not been a problem at all getting through for ANYONE I know including myself.
I do also have some video proof of some people in my upline who have receivd their money. http://expandyourwealth.net/tviexpressvideoproof/
have a look
November 16, 2009 5:08 PM
Mike said...
Why is it that people always tell me "I know someone else that has gotten their $10,000", but they themselves cannot say the same thing. The initial people that started in the Maddoff pyramid scheme all got their money in the begining, but they now have to give it back since it was a ponzi scheme. My advise is to those of you that know someone that got $10,000, to tell them not to spend it yet. They may have to give it back once this is declared a ponzi scheme.
November 16, 2009 5:23 PM
just looking for facts not opinions said...
I have a friend in TVI and I was very close to getting in, more out of curiousity on the questions I couldnt answer without being a member. 1st off there is not an mlm that doesn't take a credit card, nor is there an mlm that doesn't list the founder,CEO, principals etc, with bios, to begin with I was sure this was a pyramid since there is no product or focus on a product without a product there is no business. I went in her back office to book a trip and the airfare was actually more to acapulco then on the airline website direct, it is nothing more then a search engine that pulls any published rate,there is no affiliation with any hotel,rci or other. you do not need to pay 250 to be a member to get these rates get them anywhere on the web, expedia, alaska travel etc.with the company having only been around for less then a year , how is there and events page on the website that talks of the ANNUAL retreat as though it has happened several time over as it usually is held in Hawaii but has been in Grand Cayman per the website??? really yet they have been around less then a year how odd, the 6 nights is still on hold has been for over a month, if you can not redeem them the website has no integrity, you have to be able to recieve what is advertised why don't that add a disclaimer to this in the website also why is there no update in the information posting section of the website? why does all correspondence say the TVI Express team and never a person with a name real companies state from the CEO or someother named person and title, who moves from London to India? and still not update with an address on the wesite, the pictures of the new space how Ghetto really and you can earn a Villa or a Jet from this company? The most interesting thing is about the way they pay out, yes people are getting paid but not from the company, when the 10k shows in your back office not one person I spoke to ever got the money from the company they all traded for vouchers they then sell to the downline new members for their space on the board, yes every one of them, so if there is no money being paid to the company how do they have any operating capital how do they pay anyone ever? how do they buy a member a jet or even a cup of coffee for that matter, so yes people are getting paid. 10k equals 40 vouchers at 250 you sell them to 40 new members and you are paid, and there you have it, internet pyramid.
November 16, 2009 8:23 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
What an awesome comment!! I finaly found someone with some answer to the questions I had about the company!! You mean to tell me you have to sell you positions to other recruits so you can get the $10,000?? WOW!!! The $250 doen't even buy you a trip??? OMG! How can people not see this as pyramid/ponzi scheme!! Great comment!!!
November 16, 2009 8:47 PM
pajki said...
Vim!My friends tried to call them several times in England!And no answer...Why do they say they are in UK if they are in India??!!!The UK adress is on the website not the Indian adress!
November 17, 2009 3:28 AM
Cherics said...
Hello All,
TVI’s Compensation plan has been proven to be very realistic.
Canadian Diamond Traders started since 2003 and is still around.
Club Freedom started since 2006 and is still around also.
And both have the same revolving matrix as TVI and doing great.
My sponsor already has 667 people in his downline and got paid 4x250 and 2x 10,000 plus $4000 in residual income.
So he brought in 667x$250=$166750 into the company
And got paid $25000 so far in cash within 2 and a half month.
I already have 22 in my downline and still need 6 to cycle out of the traveler board
So I brought in aprox. 28x250=$7000 and get paid $250 plus an e-voucher of $250
TVI also earns massive commissions from every booking made via their Travel Express website in the back office.
That is what it is all about. This is a Win Win situation.
So here is the real proven math.
As you all can see, they are able to payout such big commissions and pay for your hotel travel package.
They will be around for a long time and it won’t collapse as some of you thinks
This business is proven and is the fastest growing business out there.
So successful that I came accross to more then 5 companies who has already copied their comp. plan. in a short time. Why? Just because it works!!!
Really haven’t seen this since being in network marketing.
This business has shown that the average person like you and me just can make money online. As long as you put efforts in it you will make money with TVI.
There are already 100 millionaires in TVI in less than one year.
They are a legitimate and very rewarding company.One of our team leaders had a call with one of the big leaders who spoke with people at corporate the other day and he was very excited. They have put in a new phone system and hired lots of customer service people so your calls will get answered. They have also hired people to answer all emails quickly.
As you heard they have transfered to a new computer data center with more security, more servers to handle the massive growth. The goal of companies like this is to get 50-60,000 distributors the first year. That is considered very good. TVI has 380,000 and more in less than a year, which has caused some serious growing pains.
But this person we talked with says that they are here to stay and that we can expect lots of great things.
For more info cherics2005@yahoo.com
November 18, 2009 6:28 AM
just looking for facts not opinions said...
to all tvi members do you know why the website still shows the london phone and address , yet in the announcements section tvi says they are moving to india and this was in september, why have they not added the new address or at least removed the old one. I was on a conference call with the lead person in my friends upline and he said he speaks with corporate in london weekly yet even tvi website in the announcement section clearly says they moved from the london location to india, if the pictures of the new location floating around are real which I doubt they ARE, then they certainly have a new address to post. People are naive' people lie, people believe what they want to believe when they do no wish to work and want to get rich quick. There are alot people using God and the bible in their belief in this deal and the bible is very clear that we are to work and work hard, and that we are not to go after get rich quick schemes which this clearly is. If you want to pursue this was of getting money you do not even need tvi just make up 40 certificates state they are good for 6 night hotels and a place on a board that you cna earn money sell them for 250 each and you have 10k, that is exactly what tvi is the certificates are no good. I wanted this to be true, I wanted it for the trip I wanted it for my friend, even though people are getting money , however please don't fool yourself they are not being paid in the real sense of the meaning of being paid, they are selling mere pieces of useless paper and a dream. You have to ask yourself what real company would ever endorse strangers putting money in the accounts of strangers in another state even in order to join, tell me one real company that operates that way and again I ask how does the company ever get money? no one is booking a trip on the back office search engine and if they are it is so minimal and the airlines do not pay for bookings to third parties at all. for this to be even a bit true there would need to be a focus on the back office travel site and it's not current members actually tell you if you just want the travel then I don't want you to join, the sooner it is acknowledged for what it is a pyramid the better. Please tell your famliy and friends it is a pyramid and let them be a part of it based on what it is and not what you want it to be.
November 18, 2009 3:23 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
People are actually taking their $10k and withdrawing it as cash, I know this for a fact. You do actually pay the company money at this point in time though you are paying it through a liberty reserve account . Some people are buying vouchers from other people, but most people upon joining will set up their own liberty reserve account.
There is a new office in Indai yes, but there is also another new office in London.
I am not TVI so I can not answer why they have not changed that infomation on the website, but a guy in my team contacted them directly the other day and asked them to make sure they are updating the information on the website. I did go in and book my 6 night 7 day travel but it did not appear on the website or as an email stating it was back up and opperational for 3 days after I had done it. Yep, they need to fix that up, and I am confident they are working on that as eveything they have been working on has come through. Also they are in the process of bringing in another payment option at the moment.
November 18, 2009 3:41 PM
just looking for facts not opinions said...
I only talked to ten people all of which are getting vouchers not money from the company, one guy said he is making 100k per month and yes all of it in vouchers, please tell me how many people are actually oaying tvi directly , I have not heard of one person paying tvi thru liberty reserve, do you understand that if a majority of the people are buying vouchers no money is going to the company? my friend is going to ask to be paid direct from tvi when she goes off the express board, how they will pay her is a mystery since all the people she and her downline have bought vouchers from the upline members not one dime has gone to tvi , this will be interesting to see how this works.
November 19, 2009 12:39 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
TVI Express is beginning to uravel. I have heard that several of the top leaders have not received their pay this week!!
November 19, 2009 7:10 PM
Juan said...
yes, I was skeptical about TVI myself... It just didn't sound right. I know people are getting paid well, but I have never heard of one cashing in on their voucher and taking a trip. So I joined DreamStyle, and it is great. I joined and advanced to the second level in less than a week. Check it out. www.dreamstylegetaway.com or call me 800-774-7170, dreamsdocometrue
November 20, 2009 7:30 AM
Juan said...
Sorry folks, my number is 888-774-7170 instead of 800
November 20, 2009 7:57 AM
marccus said...
listen people i have a stock tip for all of you even if your in tvi or dream style or even nothing at all.. there is a new company or should i say a new cruise ship that has arrived in the usa it is called the oasis built by royal caribeen.. they are giving everyone a chance to become the founders of this cruise line and the company they are invoving them selves in a matrix as well and it is breaking records. its started in nov 9, 2009. it has 3100 memebers so far and is growing there pay out is immediate and goes up to $25,000. everyone has there niche in this networking world but we all know to succeed yopu got to get in when it FIRST BEGINS now is the time you have untill nov 30 2009 to get on this money train..go to my website or call me www.billionaire.royalcruisematrix.com or call 786-624-0913. this is usa based and you get paid in checks 24 hours immediately right in your back office.. this is easy and for all tvi memebers you can use this as well for the people who cant afford $250 dollars.. this program is only $100 bucks that right $100 bucks to make $25,000 over n over again. you cant even question this cuz this is backed and ran by royal caribbean cruise lines and they so happen to be the second largest cruise line in the world..i like tvi and i have gotten my 10k and i understand everyone ones concerns but to eleviate all concerns cuz at the end of the day its all about the mighty dollar. i can assure you this 100 bucks to make 500, 5000, or 25,000 is a bargain to me and i have a a for sure product crusing on the biggest ship now in the world its 5 football fields long and more amenties then you think.. who in this country will not want to get on this ship its like the titanic everyone wants to ride big or do it big and this is big so dont wait add to your income spend the 100 bucks or call me before you do i will help you or answer your questions 786-624-0913.. we all should just relax and go for what you think works and is going to make sense..www.billionaire.royalcruisematrix.com..see all of you on the other side
November 24, 2009 7:00 PM
rakishn said...
If You guiys are really serious about making money online and If you think that VTI express is something You cannot afford , there are so many low cost programs up there for you to try like https://www.gogo20.com/Attract
and http://www.powerwealthteam.com/?id=730
These are all LOW COST Programs and are RECENTLY LAUNCHED . So If You get in NOW , You are at an ADVANTAGE
November 24, 2009 10:15 PM
Scottay said...
For those of you who have stated that you have or know people who have phoned TVI and actually spoken to someone could you provide the rest of us with a phone number so we can call them ourselves? And not the number of someone in your upline. An actual working number for TVI.
November 25, 2009 2:47 PM
Scottay said...
Just noticed something else. We may as well ignore any comments by VIM as it appears he's a hacker. I just tried to check out his "video proof" as stated in his comment above, "I do also have some video proof of some people in my upline who have receivd their money. http://expandyourwealth.net/tviexpressvideoproof/
have a look"
What ever you do don't go and have a look. Lucky for me my security software blocked his site from loading and this is the report I recieved.
"Reported Attack Site!
This web site at expandyourwealth.net has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences.
Attack sites try to install programs that steal private information, use your computer to attack others, or damage your system.
Some attack sites intentionally distribute harmful software, but many are compromised without the knowledge or permission of their owners."
And this is the Details from Google,
"Safe Browsing
Diagnostic page for expandyourwealth.net
What is the current listing status for expandyourwealth.net?
Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this website may harm your computer.
Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 1 time(s) over the past 90 days.
What happened when Google visited this site?
Of the 2 pages that we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 2 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time that Google visited this site was on 2009-11-24, and the last time that suspicious content was found on this site was on 2009-11-24."
So VIM, your comments here are pretty useless. If infact you are an honest dude, I'd recommend updating your site as if it wasn't hacked by you, it was hacked by someone.
November 25, 2009 3:00 PM
Vim said...
Scottay,
I am not sure exactly what is going on here.. I have clicked on it numerous times and have sent the link out to people and there has never been a problem. As far as all this stuff you have written above about google I will check it out myself and let the people know who who own the site that there is a problem if in fact there is. I am not a bloke by the way! Do you want the phone number for TVI for real?
Vim
November 25, 2009 11:03 PM
Vim said...
I just put in http://expandyourwealth.net and I had a warning come up like scottay has said. I do not know why this has occured, I know that the guy on there is not the people I know who have their video testimonials. when i put in http://expandyourwealth.net/tviexpressvideoproof/ it comes up with the page I am talking about and with no warning message. I will let the people know who have put their videos on there.
November 26, 2009 12:15 AM
Scottay said...
Hi Vim, Glad you got back to me. If that site is a wordpress blog it's likely they may have been hit by the iFrame attacks that have occured recently. Google "iframe attack" for more info about it. Tell them to upgrade their blog right away. In fact if anyone on here has a WP blog upgrade it! I had to rebuild an entire server after it was hit.
Sorry if I assumed you were the owner of that site and up to no good. I take back my comments. I was still a little miffed after rebuilding said server and have a serious hate for hackers.
Yes I'd love to get the number for TVI. This one seems to be such a hot topic. On one hand people scream it's a scam and to stay away, others who are members rave about it's benefits. If it's a pyramid scheme or ponzi then so is every other MLM out there so I won't go so far as to say that, but it is rather odd that they have no info about owners, say they are at such and such location when they are not, and aren't very transparent.
I'll hold my jurdgement on them until I've researched them some more so a working phone number would help.
Thanks Vim.
November 26, 2009 5:28 AM
Mike said...
Look guys! Think about for just a second. Why join a company that has so many unanswered questions about its integrity? I have been going back and forth with people about this for months; are they in India, or are they headquartered in the UK, are people getting their $10,000 or are they not, is it a legitimate travel voucher or is it a time share presentation? You don't have to ask these questions when it's a legit company!! One might say. well it's only $250, let's try and see what happens. You would better off taking that money to Las Vegas or buying lottery tickets than giving it to scammer that is behind TVI Express. There is too much technology out there that could dispell all the rumours about this company, yet noone is coming forward with any proof that it works. It's sad to see so many people getting suckered in to this scam. http://90recruitsin90days.com
November 26, 2009 6:29 AM
Vim said...
Hi Scottay,
No worries about your comments before.. I have tried to let the others know, but as it's Thanksgiving I dont know if they will read message till tomorrow. Here is the no. it's U.K time open 10am till 6pm.. +442032899918 I just actually asked my friend to call as I don't have any skype credit at the moment.. and he got striaght through. My skype id is frazerash1 if you want to ask any questions or have trouble getting through. I am putting my skype id on here for scottay to use or anyone who wants to ask genuine questions, anyone who is going to be a pain in the butt please think again..Hope this helps..
Vim
November 27, 2009 3:09 AM
Albertus said...
Sorry man TVI express is real, because I know 3 people that have been paid out already, If you get two lazy ass referrals under you of course your not going to make any money. people say kirby, cutco and priamerica are scams but I know people that got rich off all of these. If you dont feel like you can recuit the refferals you need then I recommand you join TVI-Global Assist Team . You can buy the two refferals you need. http://www.tviglobalassistteam.com/?aff=116
November 28, 2009 8:35 AM
SteveStreet2000 said...
Well, I must say, everyone is trying to fix the internet by exposing a program as a scam and then trying to pitch their own program.
Mathmaticly TVI adds up. Go on any conference call, or ask anyone you like who knows some that has recieved their money (no matter how it comes) and you will see profit. Plain and simple.
I like TVI and hate naysayers.
December 1, 2009 4:13 PM
Robert C. Mergupis said...
I have never meet so many people stuck in the "BOX!"
December 1, 2009 4:34 PM
Mike said...
For crying out loud!! I have been asking for proof of income from anyone at TVI Express for 3 months now, and still noone has come forward to show me some kind of proof!!!I will stay in the box with my $250 rather than come out of the box and lose my shirt!! Come on people, wake up!!
http://90recruitsin90days.com
December 1, 2009 5:26 PM
Satish said...
can someone run a dnb check on tvi and report outcome?
December 4, 2009 12:47 PM
Mike said...
Interesting! What is DNB?
December 4, 2009 12:55 PM
Ms. Tweety UK said...
I live it the UK and some1 in the US told me about TVI. It was a job in itself just trying to get signed up. If the person that told you about TVI does not have any vouchers, then they have to find someone with a voucher, you have to send them the money for the voucher, then they send you the e-voucher, and then you sign up. With all the technology today, one should be able to just go onto the sponsor's website, click join and put in their own credit card or checking account information. One would think??? I have since then joined another company very similar to TVI and I just went straight to the person's replicated website and signed up. It was only $100 and I have my own site! See for your self how easy it is by going to my website www.thflood.royalcruisematrix.com
Be sure to watch the pay plan video on page 2!!!
December 5, 2009 7:11 AM
Swapan Dhar said...
This blog must be quite popular with all the comments - positive and negative. I have just signed up with TVI because a lot of people whom I personally know have indeed earned money from TVI. Yes, their system is quite complicated but I don't mind that.
As for the traveling part, I really don't care. I prefer money instead.
My brother and I have just created a Pre-TVI Group which helps others who can't afford to pay $250 to sign up with TVI. We charge Rs 1700 (INR)only and at this time for Indians only.
More details at http://pretvigroup.ning.com
December 6, 2009 10:34 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
Hi Guys, we have just launched a new website which has some of our team members on it and a couple of videos re TVI www.fasttracktofreedom.net
December 7, 2009 4:22 PM
peters1866 said...
TVI IS THE BEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED ON THE INTERNET, AND I HAVE THE PROOF! ALL IT TAKES TO MAKE $10,000 IS SIMPLY SIGNING UP 2 PEOPLE, AND THEN YOU GET THE MONEY! THEY PAY!
Also, they are owned by the same company that owns TRAVELOCITY!
For us, it only took SEVEN WEEKS to get 10 grand. (which went directly into our bank account). Then, we took the $10,000 and turned it into $11,000, within 3 days after that. (I'll also show you how to do that, the easy way, by selling vouchers that are already pre-sold).
If you have any questions whatsoever, regarding TVI, (1) 866-943-5577 (TOLL-FREE) (from within USA or Canada) or, if you are calling from OUTSIDE USA, call me on (1) 5416030768.
December 8, 2009 12:32 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
HEY guys.. this morning I cycled off the travel board with one of my accounts.. I received my money and have also already sold the voucher i received as well. I'm excited and my team is going well
Vim www.fasttracktofreedom.net
December 9, 2009 3:19 AM
Connie said...
Congrats to all in TVI doing well. I know a lot of people are looking at the opportunity, but many, especiallya the holidays are not able to afford the $250. We have a team that helps you get into TVI for only $37 and when you enter TvI you already have your 2 referrals.
Check it out: http://www.thekeystoprosper.com
December 9, 2009 2:24 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
Hey Connie, The only thing with that is TVI are cracking down on it because it does not comoply with them.. and so unfortunately for those and their downlines they will be shut down.
December 10, 2009 3:02 AM
chicane407 said...
Well to all on here thanks for so many comments.Good bad and uguly.Now im sure some have made money and its for sure some have not.90recruitsin90days thanks for your in put.Bottom line people is your getting paid from someone else joining the program.Right or wrong thats how you you get paid.I sold Timeshare and club programs and thanks to you all thats were the tour comes from your travel vouchers you pimp:)I was concedering joining TVI but its a bit much and i have the number to the corp office in SanDiego.I did a google map search and found it to be a home in an neighbor hood.Oh and by the way i know Sandiego and were that nieghbor hood is and there is NO office park there.So good luck to all who get involved and it $300 now not $250.Agian good luck make money dont hate on anybody trying to make money to live a better life. Happy hollidays and GodBless
December 11, 2009 1:02 PM
Mike said...
Very well said Chicane407!!
http://90recruitsin90days.com
December 11, 2009 1:38 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
? There is no corporate office in Sandiego? where did you get that idea??
I have the details of the 3 new offices. None of them are in Sandiego
December 13, 2009 1:41 PM
Bogiesgirl said...
Hi guys!
I just wanted to stop by, and give my 2 cents. . .LOL!!! My name is Kim, and I am from Atlanta, Ga. I am currently involved with TVI, and I will tell you my personal experience. I joined in October of 2009, and I was sponsored by my boyfriend. We were told about this opportunity by a friend who plays pro sports. So in any event, I was a little skeptical, because it sounded too good to be true! So, needless to say. I didn't join immediately, but my boyfriend did!. So I didn't think much about about it. Well about 2 weeks went by, and he received an email in his yahoo account from the company stating he had received 500.00(250 cash, 250 voucher) in his back office.Once I saw that, I jumped in head first. Within my first 6 days of joining, I convinced 2 friends to join as well. Once the board split, I jumped ahead of people who didn't sponsor 2! I was ecstatic. Since then I have personally brought in over 16 people, thus helping me get to the pay out much faster. Listen i can't tell you this is for everybody, but I made a decision thatt was good for me. When I thought about the alternatives out there, I knew it would take over 3 years of working a job at 150k to take care of all my debt, not to mention that, that job is not available to me. People I was drowning! This is been a life raft, and if you are reading this, you are probably drowning as well. I wish everyone much success, if you can find something to get you out of this financial mess, whether it's TVI or not. But if you would like to know more, and just talk to a real person, that's not trying to sell you, then feel free to contact me at kkarrington@gmail.com. I wish you much happiness.
Kindest regards,
Kimberly
December 13, 2009 9:44 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
Hi guys, I came off the traveller board again earlier this week, so that is twice in under a week. I received my money straight away. I have had 2 new people join our team in the last couple of days, it really is growing and moving so well. TVI has announced all their new offices, they have kept to all they have said they would do. Please feel free to ask any questions on skype - frazerash1 or visit our website www.fasttracktofreedom.net
Vim
December 16, 2009 12:47 PM
Jim said...
Has anyone actually used a travel certificate and reported on their experiences? Obvious and legitimate question and no one is really stepping up to answer...if travel certificates were available for trade or sale, wouldn't there be a demand for such a wonderful discounted opportunity? Doesn't even seem to be a hint of a whisper about it...just about bringing more folks in, ironically, under the premise of the travel certificate being the lesser one of the two primary benefits!
December 17, 2009 3:57 AM
Muhammad said...
if u got money dont join but dont hold other people back hell its only 250 an alote of yall r fussen like yo world gone end if u spend 250 which is no money 4 people who work everyday get a life we cant take the money wit us when we die so people if u reading this lookn 4 a reason 2 join or not the decsion is on u jus dont let some mesrible people who dont have nothing 2 do but sit a critisize cause they unhappy for what reason i dont know so 2 all those who lookn 4 some biz that may change yo life by all means invest jus know no matter what it is theres gonna b work
December 17, 2009 12:11 PM
Mike said...
See Muhammad, that's how poor people think. They say things like "it's only one dollar, let's just play the lotto, we might win". Rich people don't gamble like that. They take very calculated risks that they know the outcomes to. Sure it's only $250.00, but think about how many other "opportunities" you could say that about and get sucked in every time. Folks keep your $250 and invest it wisely. Don't throw it away like Muhammad is suggesting, especially on TVI Express.
http://90recruitsin90days.com
December 17, 2009 2:45 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
I know that there has not been a lot of talk on here about the travel discounts, and the people in my team are working on some videos this week to show the comparisons..I will post the video later this week, but this is an excerpt from an email from a man who is in my team which he has sent out today..
"One camprison, I did was a flight from Brisbane to LA in June next year (2010). With VAUSTRALIA, the return flight was going to be $1467. For the exact same flight, with the same airline, same departure times and departure dates it would be $1268 with TVI. A saving of $199.
The good thing I found with TVI’s hotel stays is that if you find a cheaper rate with the same hotel dates etc within 24 hours of booking with TVI, they will match the price and pay you 10% of the difference in price.
I also did some comparisons with some of TVI’s hotels in Brisbane for March next year. For one of the 5 Star hotels compared to wotif.com. TVI came up $36 cheaper per night. That was at the highest scale, the smallest margin being $10."
We will have more to show later in the week, so without everyone just focussing on the opportunity and saying. "oh it's a scam" have a look at some of the discounts.. If you want to check out a price from somewhere to somewhere please let me know.. vimnashart@live.com or www.fasttracktofreedom.net
TVI is great, if you are sitting on the fence wondering, you can call us on skype - frazerash1 if you decide it's not for you, that's fine, but take a look, and no don't join with the people saying it's $27 or $117 or $2.99 they are being checked out by TVI at the moment and will be shut down. With the new credit card system TVI has introduced in the last week, sign ups are going smoothly, and people are not having to buy vouchers from each other..
Remember though, a lot of the people slagging TVI are only doing it to benefit them so they can promote their own thing..
Vim
December 20, 2009 4:31 AM
Truc said...
OK...
1 question... if TVI is a scam, why then would Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson of Virgin Atlantic be involved in TVI express?
December 21, 2009 3:42 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Did a representative from TVI Express give you that information? That is totally false. They are not involved in TVI Express in any way!
December 21, 2009 3:51 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
This is in response to handmade candles. I thought the whole purpose of paying the $250 was to get a vacation package with a free return flight included, I din't realize that the $250 is to join a service that I could get a 10% discount on travel. I coul get much better deals from Orbitz, or Hotwire, without having to pay $250.00!
December 21, 2009 3:53 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
As of this morning my sponsor is now on top of the express board about to make his first $10k, and he has another spot right below it as well.. VERY exciting. No mike..the purpose of joining is to be part of a discount travel club where you will get lifelong discounts on car hire, flghts and accomodation it is not a 10% discount mike..please read what I said. You ALSO get a business opportunity and you get a free 6 night 7 day holiday. plus the chance to make some wonderful friendships along the way. As far as Warren Buffet goes, he is saying direct selling is the way to go, I don't think he has ever directly said anything about TVI but I can check that out.
December 21, 2009 9:38 PM
mxb International said...
hi evry one ,
I am a member of the TVI, I'm an Iraqi and resident in Dubai,I think it's an opportunity, no matter how you mentioned the comments of this company,
For the information of all
You can get 15,000 dollars, even if the number of members does not exceed fifty ..!!
And this happened because the board members together from different places and not only from your downlines
And thus will increase the chances you get 15,000 dollars, in addition to the work of your downlines
There are many positive changes occurred in the company
So now accept credit card,
best regards
The bait is the 5 night 6 day vacation of a lifetime with a return plane ticket for only $250. First red flag: Why is the return flight paid for and not a round trip ticket? The reason is, that these vacation packages are bogus, and they know that most people will not have the money to purchase a plane ticket to get there. Therefore, they are banking on the fact that most people will not even inquire into the trip. I mean why would hotels be willing to sell their room for a week at any resort in the world for $250?
The second bait is the fact that you can make $15,000 in 2 - 3 weeks. Beware, $5000 is in free travel and $10,000 supposedly will hit your bank account. Folks, anytime a company says you can make $10,000 in three weeks from a $250 "investment", RUN!!!! There is no such thing!
All of this is based on a compressed matrix. That means you get in line, and as more and more people get in you move up the ladder and when you reach the top, you get the money. This is all good, but what happens when you get there and find out there is no money, because the people that started this have skipped town with your money. This is what happened to YTB.
My advice is, stay away from this one. Definetly a scam! There are better opportunities out there to recruit masses of people.
LATEST DEVELOPMENT! I just recently found out that the travel vouchers from TVI Express can be purchased by anyone for $2.99 each!! You do not have to pay $250.00 for the vacation package. These are bought through an incentive wholesaler and are available to the general public!!
For more tips like this go to www.90recruitsin90days.com.
Posted by 90recruitsin90days at 1:54 PM
101 comments:
labefam said...
You are incorrect YTB is still up and running. Check your facts before you post
September 22, 2009 12:03 PM
Colin Buckingham - Global Internet Entrepreneur said...
I was approached by someone else about TVI and I did some research after I
had watched the two videos, especially the one about the comp plan. I think
this is a gigantic international scam/pyramid scheme, even though it sounds
very enticing and some people will make some money at this. The first red
flag was that they do not accept credit cards but you can buy sign-up
vouchers or wire the money to the company. On the videos there is virtually
no reference to making money from the travel business, only from recruiting
people. The company is supposed to be based in London but they are not at
the address on their website. This was a virtual office and I spoke to the
management company of this building and he said TVI “had packed up their
bags overnight and disappeared with no forwarding address”. This apparently
happened a couple of months ago. If you call the customer service number it
rings three times and then disconnects (I tried 10 times). I sent them an
email last week asking for details of their management team and they have
not replied yet (although they promise 48 hour service). Interestingly
enough they have been loading up new videos on their website this week but
the address and phone number are the same! It is rumored the owner is of
Indian descent and the bank they use is in Cypress. So if someone wants to
send their money to a reputed Indian national who has a phantom office in
London and a bank account in Cypress then I wish them all the luck in the
world!
September 26, 2009 3:49 PM
Dave said...
Thanks for the info. I do have oe question though. With all the programs out there, then you have people like yourself exposing these companies, then promoting your own books, ideas, or theories, or even business. Who is anyone going to believe? Why should any of us hard working people want to waste our time and money on any of these businesses. Just a thought!
September 30, 2009 5:56 PM
Jeff Donovan said...
Who are the principals of TVI Express? I keep reading "backed by strong investor group"...who are they? I keep reading everyone doing this but I can't seem to validate who the founders and management team are? Does anyone know names, phonne nnumbers, and management team contact information?
October 20, 2009 7:00 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Here is where you get some excelent information on TVI Express that will be able to answer most of your questions: http://mlmhelpdesk.com/2009/09/28/tvi-express-is-still-on-the-mlm-scam-radar-at-mlm-help-desk/
October 20, 2009 7:18 PM
LLDDSS said...
has anyone been on a trip through TVI or has anyone been scammed and could not go on the trip. I need some answers on what do believe!!
October 21, 2009 11:05 AM
LLDDSS said...
to believe lol.) If the trip was what they say why wouldnt the TVI company work for me, if they were to lie and most people were not able to go on the trip due to obstacles almost impossible to over come then the company would be a scam.The first impression would be the answer to the credibility of TVI I would think.
October 21, 2009 11:18 AM
90recruitsin90days said...
I know of noone that has been on any trip with TVI. The fact that they only give you a return plane ticket is a red flag to me. They know that in today's economy, noone will be able to afford the departure flight price. I know of several people that actually gave their trips away once they got them, due to the fact that they were time share promotions. You can get those type of free trips at anytime without going through TVI Express!
October 21, 2009 11:25 AM
LLDDSS said...
Thats the answer I was looking for.
Thanks
October 21, 2009 12:24 PM
Leelavathi said...
Why cant check it Before Posting ,
http://tviexpressblog.info
October 29, 2009 7:49 AM
st.fe said...
Ok Guys my question is why don't you all do your own research? I did & personaly know of 3 people who have used the Tviexpress Holiday Vouchers successfully & others who have used thy'er discounts on flights and Hotels have saved up to 60% on thy'er stay.
I also know of family friends who have received the $15000 4 times already and are receiving the residual incomes. Why wouldn't you be able to afford the departure ticket when you have access to discounts on all flights? If indeed there are other companyies offering a 7day/6night stay in a 5 star hotel/resort with return ticket included please do let me know Sir.
October 30, 2009 12:38 AM
Richard Ferris said...
There is a lot of information out there on the web - pros and cons - and it certainly can seem overwhelming.
I am sure there are people who have been successful with this - there always are with any venture.
The real question is weather this is a viable business model which can last for a decade or more...or....is it just a money game where some people will make money in the short run and one day - the last in line will have to lose again?
One rule I have for myself, is I will not get involved with a company, nor promote a company to my friends and family, which doesn't already have more than 10 years of a track record.
And if a company is a "start up" - it better have a stellar management team with a track record, and I would still be cautioning everyone I introduced it to to be aware of the risk.
Every company has to start somewhere - I know. Just measure the risk vs reward. Other companies with long track records (over 10 years) may not have the enticing rewards offered in something like TVI....but you can bank on them likely not folding overnight.
October 30, 2009 4:48 AM
90recruitsin90days said...
Excelent comment!! I agree 100%. There may be lots of good compnies out there that are in the start up stages, but this one is one that is already being looked by the regulators
October 30, 2009 4:54 AM
october said...
robert this guy who helps do the reeling 'em in for a pyramid scheme called xzotto, has already received his $15,000. i dont know if this is absolutely true or not. but my family knows him and he claims to have received the money. either way my mothers a ditz for trying out all these different scams, but i'm just trying to watch out for her.
November 1, 2009 9:04 PM
Mike said...
Everyone that I have ever talked to about TVI Express has known someone else but themselves who has received a check for $15,000, but the funny part is, when I ask for proof of their check stub, or a bank account statement, noone has ever been able to produce that. I would stay away from this.
November 1, 2009 9:12 PM
Match said...
I believe a return ticket and round trip are one and the same. It's just thee way the brits say it. They call it round trip in the U.S. They call it return trip in the U.K. LOL! you could at least done the research on that! hahahahha!
Please do better research in general. I say the best way to know how tvi express works is to try it yourself....and that's what I'm going to do.
November 4, 2009 2:11 AM
Mike said...
I have asked repeatedly to show me at least 3 people that have actually used the travel vouchers, or that have actually had a deposit of money into their bank account from TVI Express, and I have yet to have anyone come forward with proof that this works. Until I have proof, this is a scam!
November 4, 2009 5:07 AM
Bruce said...
Personal opinions are always welcome I quess? Especially when you don't have all the facts and really just want to promote your business. Most people who have never built an organization of any size, tend to try to sell people on training, making people believe they have all the answers and teach them how to get rich quick on their special system!!! The website is full of you people.
Bruce
November 4, 2009 5:39 PM
just looking for facts not opinions said...
my question is to the 90 day guy, did you actually join TVI first hand and you know for sure that you will not get paid nor be able to book any real trip?
November 6, 2009 10:23 AM
William said...
Has anyone heard of this new prelaunch oppty called Juugo?? It has a similar matrix, just different amounts. $445 to start with $6,000 payout at the end of the leader board.
Will N..in New Mexico.
November 6, 2009 1:56 PM
Michael W Wyrosdick said...
You guys really come up with some amazing boloney! I have been in TVI for 2 weeks and already produced results. You all talk about scam this and scam that, but you know nothing about how it works. It shows in you posts. I would suggest that you revisit the website and watch the PowerPoint presentation under the resources tab. http://tviexpress.com/travel4wealth
November 6, 2009 4:59 PM
Will said...
I guess you can't really comment until you've actually lost money in this deal. That's too bad. But for me I just made my decision. If it seems too good to be true........it probably is, thanx for the heads up...
Will N.
November 7, 2009 1:20 PM
shyracat said...
People are funny! An opportunity has been presented to make money by putting $250 at RISK for a few weeks time. I made MY OWN decision after talking to others that have made $10,000 or more, did what was expected in bringing in TWO people that will get TWO who will do the same and I DOUBLED my money in TWO WEEKS -- $500. ANY new venture holds a risk! IF one enters in knowing it could be flushing $250 down the toilet... that's simply the variable consideration of RISK against potential GAIN. Risk is what one takes in any business venture. Speaking from my own experience with tvi, I've paid myself back and everything after that is simply gravy. If it works and I receive 10K in the next few weeks...GREAT...IF not, what have I lost?
November 7, 2009 4:49 PM
jmanagement.james said...
I find this to be very interesting. Usually people who speak against a product, company etc, is someone who has used them personally. Therefore making the comment valid. Well I can tell you first hand that this company is legitimate. I have been very fortunate to have been in this business for the last 2 weeks, and have already received my 500.00. As well as 3 others that I have personally sponsored(they have also received theirs). I was introduced to this program from a personal friend. I was skeptical at first, but I did my due diligence, and pursued the idea. Once I paid my 250.00, I was emailed my 6 day/7 night voucher that allows me to stay anywhere in the world. I then proceeded to book it, to see if it was valid. At that time listings to several hotels that accepts this voucher were emailed to me(I called the hotels as well, they verified the info). They all are 3-5 star hotels. I was impressed. So I proceeded to get 2 friends involved, and that qualified me for the 500.00. 6 days later, I received $250.00, and 250.00 traveler's voucher. I then transferred my money to my bank account, and sold my voucher for 250.00. So looking pretty good so far. Now I am on the "Express" board, where my friend has just received his 10k! Yes, , , ,his 10k, and guess what I am next in line. So I said all this to say, that I am very real. I live in Atlanta GA, and I can be contacted. So if anyone is interested in moving forward, let me know. I will be more than happy to help you obtain financial success. Good luck, and God bless. I can be contacted at jmanagement.james@gmail.com, or contact me on my twitter @ http://twitter.com/jmanagement3579. Leave me a message! or call me at 646.339.7770
http://tviexpressveryreal.blogspot.com/2009/11/tvi-express-is-very-real.html
November 9, 2009 9:54 AM
Ray said...
I have read the above blog and all of the comments. No one has asked "Where is the money coming from"? If you pay in $250 and will get $15,000 in three weeks, where is the money coming from? No products are sold for income. The only source of money is the membership, i.e. those $250's. So, what you receive, the $15000, is the money from the new joiners. This is a money game. You use Peter's money to pay Paul. The company must have learned it from Madoff. Look this case could go on for years! How long did Madoff enjoy his freedom? As long as there are enough new moneys to pay off the old commissions, the problem doesn't surface. But if you don't get to travel as promised, that another matter.
Another thing, if you get some of the pay in vouchers, that's not good either. Vouchers are not even as good as IOU's. The latter admit that he/she/it/or they owe you. You have recourse. But vouchers are like tickets. If you don't use them they are no good to you. If you can sell them, you're okay. But can you take them to the Company and ask for money instead? Good luck to you. That's why they pay you in vouchers in the first place.
The Company not accepting credit cards? Why not? No charge back, no liability. Clever!
Well enough comments. I hope I am wrong. I wish you all the success in this venture. But if you see something gone sour, don't hesitate. Do the right thing IMMEDIATELY. Help stop the "swine flu". Save financial lives of fellow members.
November 9, 2009 5:07 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Here's how it works. It's not as easy as everybody thinks. You have to get 10 people to join in order for you to hit the first board which gives you $500. In order to reach the top of the second board you essentially have to have 150 people in your downline in order to qualify for the second board that pays you $15,000. $10,000 is cash and $5000 is travel vouchers. It would have just been simpler to have gotten all those people to pay you instead of TVI Express. Think about it, 10 people in the first board, and 150 people in the second board equals 160 people times $250 equals $40,000!! Instead the company keeps $30,000 and pays you $10,000.
November 9, 2009 5:41 PM
pajki said...
Hi everybody!What about the vacation package????Nobody has talked about it!!!!!And what about the 5000$ travelling voucher????Nobody has talked about it!!!!!So...How is it possible?????????????????????????????????????????????????
November 10, 2009 2:10 AM
Mike said...
The travel package is nothing more than a time share pitch. You will have to sit down for about 2 hours and go through a sales pitch in order to get the travel voucher!
November 10, 2009 5:01 AM
john said...
Wow, just WOW, so many ignorant posts from people who know nothing about TVI. WOW!
For starters, think about this people. Who do you book your travel with? Orbitz, Travelocity, Expedia or maybe an agent? How can those companies be in existance? Whats the product? How do they make money?
Do you know what Orbitz spends on TV commercials alone? Where is the money coming from? Think people.
We now have a company that is exploding onto the scene with NO Overhead. TVI now has close to a 1/2 million members. Where do you think they will go to book their travel? Thats right, there very own TVI members office.
I bought in, I bought 3 memberships, a total of $750.00, I have already made $1,000.00 and am on 2 $10,000.00 boards.
When Bill Gates was going public with Microsoft in the early 70's ya think people were jumping in for the IPO? No way!
A new travel giant is emerging, much like the computer industry. A lot of people can't see the forrest through the trees.
My advice, get in while the gettin is good!!
November 10, 2009 10:41 AM
john said...
Oh, and Mike, there is no sitting down listening to a presentation for the travel. Why the outright lies? Or is it just stupidity?
November 10, 2009 10:43 AM
Mike said...
Noone has yet come forward to provide proof that they have gotten a deposit in the amount of $10,000 in their account from TVI Express. They always say that they are on the second board, or they say they are next in line to get the $10,000 deposit, but for some reason that moment never comes.
November 10, 2009 11:26 AM
pajki said...
Hey John!You also have answered like the others!No facts,only blabla...Have you already used your vacation package???????Has anybody used it?And the 5000$ traveller voucher?????I'm in TVI!I WANT USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 10, 2009 2:37 PM
nauticaltennis said...
I got scammed by TVI Express. I paid $250 for a 5 night stay in Mexico and never seen a ticket. The claim is open til this day with my credit card company.
November 10, 2009 8:45 PM
john said...
Mike, FYI, I can introduce you to 5 people in my home town of who have cashed out $10,000.00 or more. 5 people in less than 90 days! Yes I have proof.
November 11, 2009 1:15 PM
Mike said...
How me the money!! I want bank account statements!!
November 11, 2009 1:18 PM
pajki said...
John!I dont care about the money!It was not a question!I know many people were paid!But what about the product?WHAT ABOUT THE VACATION PACKAGE?????!
November 11, 2009 1:39 PM
phillip said...
HI
HOW ARE YOU ,I HAVE MADE MONEY W/TVI AS WELL ,500.00 ALREADY,NO 2 I AM ON MY WAY OUT OF EXPRESS BOARD,THIS IS THE REAL DEAL,SO DONT ASSUMNE THINGS WHO EVER YOU ARE 90 DAY GUY,PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE VERY JEALIOUS OF A GREAT BUSS OPPTY ,FOR THERE OWNS MEANS,YOU SHOULD GET INVOLED TO SEE FOR YOURSELF,DONT BE SO NEGATIVE.
November 12, 2009 2:40 PM
Vim said...
I am an artist firstly and also have been designing websites. I have been researching home businesses for a few years and have also been building sites for people in Home business for the past year. I have been really disappointed to see a lot of them struggling, trying to make their money back and spending loads of money marketing and it just not working for them. About 2 months ago a friend (who I met while designing his website) suggested that I have a look at a new business opportunity. I did.. (was a little reluctant at first) and I have joined. I have never felt so good about something in my heart and believe in it, everything that is suggested about it has been true for me and I have seen people have success, the greatest thing with this is really the team support.. it's not just about getting to the top yourself, but helping those who come in with you. If I help you I help myself. There is a small investment to join $275 USD but it is Really worth it.. my sponsor has doubled his initial investment on 2 of his accounts already in under 6 weeks and he is on his way to making the $10k twice for his accounts. It is not hard to sell, most people I know, including myself have sold this on to family and friends - you do not need to outlay money on advertising.. you get a website with a great back office system when you join as well as lifetime membership to travel discounts. This does truly tick all the boxes for me. I have seen people mention it is only in Asia, but it is in prelaunch in the United States and Australia, and has had over 300,000 people join since it launched in Asia and prelaunch in U.S - their Alexa ranking shows the proof.. they are backed by some amazingly reputable companies, and all I have seen is posititive.
If you are interested in learning more or have ANY questions please ask me.. I am really passionate about this because I can see it works and it is also an environment where people are helping each other..
my site is http://www.tviexpress.com/citrine1
also you can see a really great video here (this is my sponsors site http://www.meetplanb.com/eng/gerrywitenden
and I also have another site I am an artist firstly and also have been designing websites. If you are interested in learning more or have ANY questions please ask me.. I am really passionate about this because I can see it works and it is also an environment where people are helping each other..
If you are interested in learning more or have ANY questions please ask me.. I am really passionate about this because I can see it works and it is also an environment where people are helping each other..
I also have another site which is http://www.simpleglobalbusiness.com/citrine1
You can email me flametreecandles@hotmail.com I can put you in touch with a lady I know personally who has made her $10k also my sponsor who has made his $500 on 2 of his accounts and withdrawn the cold hard cash.
Vimala
November 12, 2009 10:21 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Vimala, you seem to be a very nice person, and I respect that you are excited about the opprtunity, however you mentioned that you like the fact that people are helping you. I think if your upline thought that he could make $10,000 for "helping" you he will show that he really cares for you. You also mentioned that he bought 2 accounts. This raises a red flag. Why did he have to buy 2 accounts? Also, you mentioned that you heard about someone actually receiveing $10,000. This is the most common red flag. Everyone on these posts, and everyone that I have ever talked to has heard of someone receiving $10,000, but noone has yet to show me proof. Just like, lots of people heard that Bernie Maddoff has an ivestment that returs 12% guaranteed, but very few people made that return!
November 13, 2009 4:01 AM
Geoff Holliday said...
what i dont get is is it true that they dont accept credit card for enrollment ? why is that
November 13, 2009 2:39 PM
Mike said...
That's another thing that's fishy about the whole thing. Who doesn't take credit cards?
November 13, 2009 3:26 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
Hi again,
In terms of helping people I am talking about now I am in a position where I am going to be helping my downline - I have filled my positions and yes I have 3 positions because I wanted to buy them.. I didn't have to but wanted to, and my sponsor also chose to have more than one position. Some people who have joined under me have bought one position others have bought 3. So no red flag there just about choice. As I mentioned before I do know someone personally and a lot of other people (who I communicate with) who have received their $10,000 I did say if anyone wants to see that proof I can show them. In terms of the holiday I have pre booked mine this morning, and no it's not time share. The reason the company is not accepting credit cards at this point in time (they were in the beginning) is that in one week the were hit with huge amounts of fraud from China. They are working on setting up another more secure way to do it at the moment. I can understand this and especially with over 300,000 members. I'm not here to defend TVI because they don't need defending, I just want to answer some of the questions clearly. It is a great company with a great opportunity. I was also in my back office.. in my travel part and was checking out the prices for their airfare deals and they are VERY well priced. I did a comparison with their prices in peak and non peak seasons and they have great deals. Send me an email ask me some questions or do it on here.. I don't want to waste time answering people who just want to slander it, but people who genuinely have a question and want an answer.
November 13, 2009 4:08 PM
pajki said...
The pre-booking is not on hold yet!But what the f..k is going here????I have to give my credit card details,expiration date+CVC code!!!Am is stupid?????????????????Should I give my details to a phantom company????????!!!!!No thanx!I'm no crazy...Why do they need that?It is just a pre-confirmation!I'll get the offer later!And very interesting,they afford my credit card now!I think I sell my position.Is anybody interested in?!
November 14, 2009 10:20 AM
90recruitsin90days said...
Pajki, are you saying that they now accept credit cards, and you have to give it to them before you even sign up?
November 14, 2009 12:06 PM
pajki said...
Yes!I went to my back office and redeemed my certificate.I could verify it and then "proceed to pre-booking".On the "booking portal" I have to give my personal details,travel details(when&where I want go for my holiday to)+my card details:Card type,card number,CVC/CVV2 code,expiration date+name on card!!!And as a solution they accept my VISA/MASTERCARD now!!!Unbelievable...
November 14, 2009 1:23 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
Pajki, 90 recruits asked you a question which you have given an incorrect answer to. NO 90 recurits, you don't need to give them your credit card before you sign up. They are still not accepting credit cards. In regards to prebooking of your free six night 7 day travel, they do require your credit card as ANY hotel or resort, accomodation anywhere be it a caravan park requires your credit card and they do clearly state the reason they take it, is not for THEM to charge you but for the security for the hotel/accomodation. I think you better go back and read it carefully Pajki before you mouth off about it. Are you receiving help from your upline to understand things? Can I ask are you seriously considering selling your position and if so what is your username? I am sure I or someone I know will considering buying it. Whats your id?
Vimala
November 14, 2009 3:01 PM
pajki said...
Hi Vimala!I answered 90 recruits' question!I said they asked this details at the pre-booking system!Why do you think they asked??!Was it a joke or what?!I know they can not accept credit cards as a sign up!They need my credit card's details at the booking!We dont know anything about tvi.Should I give them my details?I dont think so...How can I believe in it with many issues?!If I ask your credit card number+details will you give me???!!!! And yes,I really want sell my position!My id:pajki
November 14, 2009 3:32 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Homemade Candles and Pajki, what does it mean to "sell your position"?
November 14, 2009 5:53 PM
Unacceptable Since 1945 said...
Where does the money come from to pay out so many thousands of dollars? It comes from the $250 fee. And, this is illegal. This is how a ponsi scheme is set up. The incoming money pays for the people who are in first. When not enough money is coming in as the scam becomes saturated the scheme crashes and the creators run with the money they've taken out for themselves.
Don't even think of having your own yacht or private jet. This offer is beyond incredible.
In order for this scam to be legal the money would need to come from sales of holiday packages and in a multi-level plan that money would be broken down on a downline much this way:
*Your sale -- you get, let's say, 10%
*Your direct downline each gets 10% of each of their own sales and passes up, let's say 5% to you
*Your secondary downline gets 10% for each of their direct sales, passes up 5% to to their upline and passes up, let's say, 2% to you.
So you make a sale of $2000.
Your 10% is $200.
Your direct downline is 10 people who each sell $2000 getting themselves 10% or $200. They pay up to you 5% each. That is $100 each making you direct downline pay you 10 times 100 equalling $1000.
Your secondary downline does the same and lat's say your secondary downline equals 20 people who pay you 2%, their upline sponsor 5% and they keep 10% of the direct sale of, let's still say, $2000 of which 2% equalls $40.
So 20 secondary sales paying you 2% gives you $800.
Please pay attention to this. The money comes from sales not from sign up fees. Sign up fees paying back thousands of dollars can only collapse.
November 15, 2009 3:10 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Very good assesment Unacceptable Since 1945!! That is very well put. There must be a product that is exchanged in order for it not to be a pyramid scheme. A vacation does not qualify as a product!!
November 15, 2009 3:53 PM
Freedomlive-TVIexpress said...
Google Mlm Cash: New passive program is a hit - paying out up to 11.75% a day
This is amazing, now 4 days old and hundreds
of members. It costs just $49 and it's paying
out approximately 11.75% a day!
So you can be in profit in just 9 days, then
use a % of subsequent profits to purchase more $49 profit modules.
Here are the details :
The program opened on Thursday this week and is open to new members for a limited time. Mike Filsaime is very excited
about this program and I am sure that most of you know who he is.
The admin are experts at making money from
Google Ad words - lots of money and we get to share whatever they make - and it's a lot!
Effectively we are joining a pool of like
minded investors in this. A profit module
costs just a one-off $49 and you can purchase more profit modules if you like at any time,
and each module will continuously earn money competely passively. And it's paying out every hour at an aproximate total of 11.75% a day.
Read all about it on the front page at:
http://googlemlmcash.com?ref=2207
and you can sign up for free
- sponsor name: googlerich
Click on the picture of their Google account
and see the sort of figures that the admin
are dealing in - it is almost 2 million dollars!
When you are ready to purchase a profit module ... it costs just $49 with a credit card, Liberty Reserve or Alertpay.
For those that share this program with others, you get 10% on your first level and 2.5% on
your second and third level - that's the MLM
part of this program, but mainly it's a very
simple passive income program, so don't be
put off by the MLM bit in the name.
UPDATE: I have just heard from a colleague on what admin are saying as to the expected daily return:
"The amount paid per deposit is directly
determined by out adwords earning trends.
You can rest assured that your daily percentage of your deposit that you will be earning will never be less than 7.5%/day
and no more than 50% a day.
I hope this clears up any confusion.
Best Wishes,
Support"
Until I saw this, I had no idea what the
earnings would be, except that the returns
will no doubt be good and continuous.
Each $49 profit module lasts for ever as
far as I can see. Go and sign up for free:
http://googlemlmcash.com?ref=2207
- sponsor name: googlerich
November 16, 2009 5:45 AM
tgustin said...
So many of you are saying you have yet to personally talk to anyone who has made their 10K. I have already talked to 2 people..personally, many times who are in my upline. They will take you or anyone in their back office and SHOW you online where they were paid their money. This company is 100% legitimate and the people who are in are SEEING the results and getting paid. It took me a few days and time on the phone with the people on my team who have been in this business for the last couple of months. I am telling you that it's the real deal. If anyone wants to see proof, I will get these people on the phone with you and if you are by a computer, they will personally take you into their online back office and SHOW YOU their 10K and also their commissions. These are everyday people who are doing this. I was SO skeptical at first...I spend days researching this before I got in. Do you think companies like Hallmark and RCI would be affiliated with them if it was just some ponzi scheme. Of course if you're intelligent, you will doubt this whole thing at first. But, here's the facts..this company is 100% legitimate and the people who are in and making their money will be happy to show you the proof. Feel free to contact me and I will get you on the phone with the people on my team who have already made their money and about to cycle out again before Christmas. Let me know...send me your email or phone number and I will call you.
November 16, 2009 10:40 AM
pajki said...
People who are always talking about the payout!Why dont you understand this?!Just because people are getting paid so far,doesnt mean it is legal!!!The facts are:unreal adress,they dont answer the phone,nobody has used the vacation package...It seems money makes people crazy...
November 16, 2009 12:31 PM
Vim said...
90 recruits, to sell your position is simply that since Pajki is unhappy instead of having them clog up the board someone in their upline can purchase that position. It takes a little bit of mucking around but it can be done. Tgustin, I know what you are saying, I speak directly with some people who have made multiple $10k and also know people who have taken holidays with the heavy discounts.
Pajki, there is an address we have all been given it and evidence of the new office they are setting up. I am not sure if you have called (in the right timezone) now there has not been a problem at all getting through for ANYONE I know including myself.
I do also have some video proof of some people in my upline who have receivd their money. http://expandyourwealth.net/tviexpressvideoproof/
have a look
November 16, 2009 5:08 PM
Mike said...
Why is it that people always tell me "I know someone else that has gotten their $10,000", but they themselves cannot say the same thing. The initial people that started in the Maddoff pyramid scheme all got their money in the begining, but they now have to give it back since it was a ponzi scheme. My advise is to those of you that know someone that got $10,000, to tell them not to spend it yet. They may have to give it back once this is declared a ponzi scheme.
November 16, 2009 5:23 PM
just looking for facts not opinions said...
I have a friend in TVI and I was very close to getting in, more out of curiousity on the questions I couldnt answer without being a member. 1st off there is not an mlm that doesn't take a credit card, nor is there an mlm that doesn't list the founder,CEO, principals etc, with bios, to begin with I was sure this was a pyramid since there is no product or focus on a product without a product there is no business. I went in her back office to book a trip and the airfare was actually more to acapulco then on the airline website direct, it is nothing more then a search engine that pulls any published rate,there is no affiliation with any hotel,rci or other. you do not need to pay 250 to be a member to get these rates get them anywhere on the web, expedia, alaska travel etc.with the company having only been around for less then a year , how is there and events page on the website that talks of the ANNUAL retreat as though it has happened several time over as it usually is held in Hawaii but has been in Grand Cayman per the website??? really yet they have been around less then a year how odd, the 6 nights is still on hold has been for over a month, if you can not redeem them the website has no integrity, you have to be able to recieve what is advertised why don't that add a disclaimer to this in the website also why is there no update in the information posting section of the website? why does all correspondence say the TVI Express team and never a person with a name real companies state from the CEO or someother named person and title, who moves from London to India? and still not update with an address on the wesite, the pictures of the new space how Ghetto really and you can earn a Villa or a Jet from this company? The most interesting thing is about the way they pay out, yes people are getting paid but not from the company, when the 10k shows in your back office not one person I spoke to ever got the money from the company they all traded for vouchers they then sell to the downline new members for their space on the board, yes every one of them, so if there is no money being paid to the company how do they have any operating capital how do they pay anyone ever? how do they buy a member a jet or even a cup of coffee for that matter, so yes people are getting paid. 10k equals 40 vouchers at 250 you sell them to 40 new members and you are paid, and there you have it, internet pyramid.
November 16, 2009 8:23 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
What an awesome comment!! I finaly found someone with some answer to the questions I had about the company!! You mean to tell me you have to sell you positions to other recruits so you can get the $10,000?? WOW!!! The $250 doen't even buy you a trip??? OMG! How can people not see this as pyramid/ponzi scheme!! Great comment!!!
November 16, 2009 8:47 PM
pajki said...
Vim!My friends tried to call them several times in England!And no answer...Why do they say they are in UK if they are in India??!!!The UK adress is on the website not the Indian adress!
November 17, 2009 3:28 AM
Cherics said...
Hello All,
TVI’s Compensation plan has been proven to be very realistic.
Canadian Diamond Traders started since 2003 and is still around.
Club Freedom started since 2006 and is still around also.
And both have the same revolving matrix as TVI and doing great.
My sponsor already has 667 people in his downline and got paid 4x250 and 2x 10,000 plus $4000 in residual income.
So he brought in 667x$250=$166750 into the company
And got paid $25000 so far in cash within 2 and a half month.
I already have 22 in my downline and still need 6 to cycle out of the traveler board
So I brought in aprox. 28x250=$7000 and get paid $250 plus an e-voucher of $250
TVI also earns massive commissions from every booking made via their Travel Express website in the back office.
That is what it is all about. This is a Win Win situation.
So here is the real proven math.
As you all can see, they are able to payout such big commissions and pay for your hotel travel package.
They will be around for a long time and it won’t collapse as some of you thinks
This business is proven and is the fastest growing business out there.
So successful that I came accross to more then 5 companies who has already copied their comp. plan. in a short time. Why? Just because it works!!!
Really haven’t seen this since being in network marketing.
This business has shown that the average person like you and me just can make money online. As long as you put efforts in it you will make money with TVI.
There are already 100 millionaires in TVI in less than one year.
They are a legitimate and very rewarding company.One of our team leaders had a call with one of the big leaders who spoke with people at corporate the other day and he was very excited. They have put in a new phone system and hired lots of customer service people so your calls will get answered. They have also hired people to answer all emails quickly.
As you heard they have transfered to a new computer data center with more security, more servers to handle the massive growth. The goal of companies like this is to get 50-60,000 distributors the first year. That is considered very good. TVI has 380,000 and more in less than a year, which has caused some serious growing pains.
But this person we talked with says that they are here to stay and that we can expect lots of great things.
For more info cherics2005@yahoo.com
November 18, 2009 6:28 AM
just looking for facts not opinions said...
to all tvi members do you know why the website still shows the london phone and address , yet in the announcements section tvi says they are moving to india and this was in september, why have they not added the new address or at least removed the old one. I was on a conference call with the lead person in my friends upline and he said he speaks with corporate in london weekly yet even tvi website in the announcement section clearly says they moved from the london location to india, if the pictures of the new location floating around are real which I doubt they ARE, then they certainly have a new address to post. People are naive' people lie, people believe what they want to believe when they do no wish to work and want to get rich quick. There are alot people using God and the bible in their belief in this deal and the bible is very clear that we are to work and work hard, and that we are not to go after get rich quick schemes which this clearly is. If you want to pursue this was of getting money you do not even need tvi just make up 40 certificates state they are good for 6 night hotels and a place on a board that you cna earn money sell them for 250 each and you have 10k, that is exactly what tvi is the certificates are no good. I wanted this to be true, I wanted it for the trip I wanted it for my friend, even though people are getting money , however please don't fool yourself they are not being paid in the real sense of the meaning of being paid, they are selling mere pieces of useless paper and a dream. You have to ask yourself what real company would ever endorse strangers putting money in the accounts of strangers in another state even in order to join, tell me one real company that operates that way and again I ask how does the company ever get money? no one is booking a trip on the back office search engine and if they are it is so minimal and the airlines do not pay for bookings to third parties at all. for this to be even a bit true there would need to be a focus on the back office travel site and it's not current members actually tell you if you just want the travel then I don't want you to join, the sooner it is acknowledged for what it is a pyramid the better. Please tell your famliy and friends it is a pyramid and let them be a part of it based on what it is and not what you want it to be.
November 18, 2009 3:23 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
People are actually taking their $10k and withdrawing it as cash, I know this for a fact. You do actually pay the company money at this point in time though you are paying it through a liberty reserve account . Some people are buying vouchers from other people, but most people upon joining will set up their own liberty reserve account.
There is a new office in Indai yes, but there is also another new office in London.
I am not TVI so I can not answer why they have not changed that infomation on the website, but a guy in my team contacted them directly the other day and asked them to make sure they are updating the information on the website. I did go in and book my 6 night 7 day travel but it did not appear on the website or as an email stating it was back up and opperational for 3 days after I had done it. Yep, they need to fix that up, and I am confident they are working on that as eveything they have been working on has come through. Also they are in the process of bringing in another payment option at the moment.
November 18, 2009 3:41 PM
just looking for facts not opinions said...
I only talked to ten people all of which are getting vouchers not money from the company, one guy said he is making 100k per month and yes all of it in vouchers, please tell me how many people are actually oaying tvi directly , I have not heard of one person paying tvi thru liberty reserve, do you understand that if a majority of the people are buying vouchers no money is going to the company? my friend is going to ask to be paid direct from tvi when she goes off the express board, how they will pay her is a mystery since all the people she and her downline have bought vouchers from the upline members not one dime has gone to tvi , this will be interesting to see how this works.
November 19, 2009 12:39 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
TVI Express is beginning to uravel. I have heard that several of the top leaders have not received their pay this week!!
November 19, 2009 7:10 PM
Juan said...
yes, I was skeptical about TVI myself... It just didn't sound right. I know people are getting paid well, but I have never heard of one cashing in on their voucher and taking a trip. So I joined DreamStyle, and it is great. I joined and advanced to the second level in less than a week. Check it out. www.dreamstylegetaway.com or call me 800-774-7170, dreamsdocometrue
November 20, 2009 7:30 AM
Juan said...
Sorry folks, my number is 888-774-7170 instead of 800
November 20, 2009 7:57 AM
marccus said...
listen people i have a stock tip for all of you even if your in tvi or dream style or even nothing at all.. there is a new company or should i say a new cruise ship that has arrived in the usa it is called the oasis built by royal caribeen.. they are giving everyone a chance to become the founders of this cruise line and the company they are invoving them selves in a matrix as well and it is breaking records. its started in nov 9, 2009. it has 3100 memebers so far and is growing there pay out is immediate and goes up to $25,000. everyone has there niche in this networking world but we all know to succeed yopu got to get in when it FIRST BEGINS now is the time you have untill nov 30 2009 to get on this money train..go to my website or call me www.billionaire.royalcruisematrix.com or call 786-624-0913. this is usa based and you get paid in checks 24 hours immediately right in your back office.. this is easy and for all tvi memebers you can use this as well for the people who cant afford $250 dollars.. this program is only $100 bucks that right $100 bucks to make $25,000 over n over again. you cant even question this cuz this is backed and ran by royal caribbean cruise lines and they so happen to be the second largest cruise line in the world..i like tvi and i have gotten my 10k and i understand everyone ones concerns but to eleviate all concerns cuz at the end of the day its all about the mighty dollar. i can assure you this 100 bucks to make 500, 5000, or 25,000 is a bargain to me and i have a a for sure product crusing on the biggest ship now in the world its 5 football fields long and more amenties then you think.. who in this country will not want to get on this ship its like the titanic everyone wants to ride big or do it big and this is big so dont wait add to your income spend the 100 bucks or call me before you do i will help you or answer your questions 786-624-0913.. we all should just relax and go for what you think works and is going to make sense..www.billionaire.royalcruisematrix.com..see all of you on the other side
November 24, 2009 7:00 PM
rakishn said...
If You guiys are really serious about making money online and If you think that VTI express is something You cannot afford , there are so many low cost programs up there for you to try like https://www.gogo20.com/Attract
and http://www.powerwealthteam.com/?id=730
These are all LOW COST Programs and are RECENTLY LAUNCHED . So If You get in NOW , You are at an ADVANTAGE
November 24, 2009 10:15 PM
Scottay said...
For those of you who have stated that you have or know people who have phoned TVI and actually spoken to someone could you provide the rest of us with a phone number so we can call them ourselves? And not the number of someone in your upline. An actual working number for TVI.
November 25, 2009 2:47 PM
Scottay said...
Just noticed something else. We may as well ignore any comments by VIM as it appears he's a hacker. I just tried to check out his "video proof" as stated in his comment above, "I do also have some video proof of some people in my upline who have receivd their money. http://expandyourwealth.net/tviexpressvideoproof/
have a look"
What ever you do don't go and have a look. Lucky for me my security software blocked his site from loading and this is the report I recieved.
"Reported Attack Site!
This web site at expandyourwealth.net has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences.
Attack sites try to install programs that steal private information, use your computer to attack others, or damage your system.
Some attack sites intentionally distribute harmful software, but many are compromised without the knowledge or permission of their owners."
And this is the Details from Google,
"Safe Browsing
Diagnostic page for expandyourwealth.net
What is the current listing status for expandyourwealth.net?
Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this website may harm your computer.
Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 1 time(s) over the past 90 days.
What happened when Google visited this site?
Of the 2 pages that we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 2 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time that Google visited this site was on 2009-11-24, and the last time that suspicious content was found on this site was on 2009-11-24."
So VIM, your comments here are pretty useless. If infact you are an honest dude, I'd recommend updating your site as if it wasn't hacked by you, it was hacked by someone.
November 25, 2009 3:00 PM
Vim said...
Scottay,
I am not sure exactly what is going on here.. I have clicked on it numerous times and have sent the link out to people and there has never been a problem. As far as all this stuff you have written above about google I will check it out myself and let the people know who who own the site that there is a problem if in fact there is. I am not a bloke by the way! Do you want the phone number for TVI for real?
Vim
November 25, 2009 11:03 PM
Vim said...
I just put in http://expandyourwealth.net and I had a warning come up like scottay has said. I do not know why this has occured, I know that the guy on there is not the people I know who have their video testimonials. when i put in http://expandyourwealth.net/tviexpressvideoproof/ it comes up with the page I am talking about and with no warning message. I will let the people know who have put their videos on there.
November 26, 2009 12:15 AM
Scottay said...
Hi Vim, Glad you got back to me. If that site is a wordpress blog it's likely they may have been hit by the iFrame attacks that have occured recently. Google "iframe attack" for more info about it. Tell them to upgrade their blog right away. In fact if anyone on here has a WP blog upgrade it! I had to rebuild an entire server after it was hit.
Sorry if I assumed you were the owner of that site and up to no good. I take back my comments. I was still a little miffed after rebuilding said server and have a serious hate for hackers.
Yes I'd love to get the number for TVI. This one seems to be such a hot topic. On one hand people scream it's a scam and to stay away, others who are members rave about it's benefits. If it's a pyramid scheme or ponzi then so is every other MLM out there so I won't go so far as to say that, but it is rather odd that they have no info about owners, say they are at such and such location when they are not, and aren't very transparent.
I'll hold my jurdgement on them until I've researched them some more so a working phone number would help.
Thanks Vim.
November 26, 2009 5:28 AM
Mike said...
Look guys! Think about for just a second. Why join a company that has so many unanswered questions about its integrity? I have been going back and forth with people about this for months; are they in India, or are they headquartered in the UK, are people getting their $10,000 or are they not, is it a legitimate travel voucher or is it a time share presentation? You don't have to ask these questions when it's a legit company!! One might say. well it's only $250, let's try and see what happens. You would better off taking that money to Las Vegas or buying lottery tickets than giving it to scammer that is behind TVI Express. There is too much technology out there that could dispell all the rumours about this company, yet noone is coming forward with any proof that it works. It's sad to see so many people getting suckered in to this scam. http://90recruitsin90days.com
November 26, 2009 6:29 AM
Vim said...
Hi Scottay,
No worries about your comments before.. I have tried to let the others know, but as it's Thanksgiving I dont know if they will read message till tomorrow. Here is the no. it's U.K time open 10am till 6pm.. +442032899918 I just actually asked my friend to call as I don't have any skype credit at the moment.. and he got striaght through. My skype id is frazerash1 if you want to ask any questions or have trouble getting through. I am putting my skype id on here for scottay to use or anyone who wants to ask genuine questions, anyone who is going to be a pain in the butt please think again..Hope this helps..
Vim
November 27, 2009 3:09 AM
Albertus said...
Sorry man TVI express is real, because I know 3 people that have been paid out already, If you get two lazy ass referrals under you of course your not going to make any money. people say kirby, cutco and priamerica are scams but I know people that got rich off all of these. If you dont feel like you can recuit the refferals you need then I recommand you join TVI-Global Assist Team . You can buy the two refferals you need. http://www.tviglobalassistteam.com/?aff=116
November 28, 2009 8:35 AM
SteveStreet2000 said...
Well, I must say, everyone is trying to fix the internet by exposing a program as a scam and then trying to pitch their own program.
Mathmaticly TVI adds up. Go on any conference call, or ask anyone you like who knows some that has recieved their money (no matter how it comes) and you will see profit. Plain and simple.
I like TVI and hate naysayers.
December 1, 2009 4:13 PM
Robert C. Mergupis said...
I have never meet so many people stuck in the "BOX!"
December 1, 2009 4:34 PM
Mike said...
For crying out loud!! I have been asking for proof of income from anyone at TVI Express for 3 months now, and still noone has come forward to show me some kind of proof!!!I will stay in the box with my $250 rather than come out of the box and lose my shirt!! Come on people, wake up!!
http://90recruitsin90days.com
December 1, 2009 5:26 PM
Satish said...
can someone run a dnb check on tvi and report outcome?
December 4, 2009 12:47 PM
Mike said...
Interesting! What is DNB?
December 4, 2009 12:55 PM
Ms. Tweety UK said...
I live it the UK and some1 in the US told me about TVI. It was a job in itself just trying to get signed up. If the person that told you about TVI does not have any vouchers, then they have to find someone with a voucher, you have to send them the money for the voucher, then they send you the e-voucher, and then you sign up. With all the technology today, one should be able to just go onto the sponsor's website, click join and put in their own credit card or checking account information. One would think??? I have since then joined another company very similar to TVI and I just went straight to the person's replicated website and signed up. It was only $100 and I have my own site! See for your self how easy it is by going to my website www.thflood.royalcruisematrix.com
Be sure to watch the pay plan video on page 2!!!
December 5, 2009 7:11 AM
Swapan Dhar said...
This blog must be quite popular with all the comments - positive and negative. I have just signed up with TVI because a lot of people whom I personally know have indeed earned money from TVI. Yes, their system is quite complicated but I don't mind that.
As for the traveling part, I really don't care. I prefer money instead.
My brother and I have just created a Pre-TVI Group which helps others who can't afford to pay $250 to sign up with TVI. We charge Rs 1700 (INR)only and at this time for Indians only.
More details at http://pretvigroup.ning.com
December 6, 2009 10:34 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
Hi Guys, we have just launched a new website which has some of our team members on it and a couple of videos re TVI www.fasttracktofreedom.net
December 7, 2009 4:22 PM
peters1866 said...
TVI IS THE BEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED ON THE INTERNET, AND I HAVE THE PROOF! ALL IT TAKES TO MAKE $10,000 IS SIMPLY SIGNING UP 2 PEOPLE, AND THEN YOU GET THE MONEY! THEY PAY!
Also, they are owned by the same company that owns TRAVELOCITY!
For us, it only took SEVEN WEEKS to get 10 grand. (which went directly into our bank account). Then, we took the $10,000 and turned it into $11,000, within 3 days after that. (I'll also show you how to do that, the easy way, by selling vouchers that are already pre-sold).
If you have any questions whatsoever, regarding TVI, (1) 866-943-5577 (TOLL-FREE) (from within USA or Canada) or, if you are calling from OUTSIDE USA, call me on (1) 5416030768.
December 8, 2009 12:32 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
HEY guys.. this morning I cycled off the travel board with one of my accounts.. I received my money and have also already sold the voucher i received as well. I'm excited and my team is going well
Vim www.fasttracktofreedom.net
December 9, 2009 3:19 AM
Connie said...
Congrats to all in TVI doing well. I know a lot of people are looking at the opportunity, but many, especiallya the holidays are not able to afford the $250. We have a team that helps you get into TVI for only $37 and when you enter TvI you already have your 2 referrals.
Check it out: http://www.thekeystoprosper.com
December 9, 2009 2:24 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
Hey Connie, The only thing with that is TVI are cracking down on it because it does not comoply with them.. and so unfortunately for those and their downlines they will be shut down.
December 10, 2009 3:02 AM
chicane407 said...
Well to all on here thanks for so many comments.Good bad and uguly.Now im sure some have made money and its for sure some have not.90recruitsin90days thanks for your in put.Bottom line people is your getting paid from someone else joining the program.Right or wrong thats how you you get paid.I sold Timeshare and club programs and thanks to you all thats were the tour comes from your travel vouchers you pimp:)I was concedering joining TVI but its a bit much and i have the number to the corp office in SanDiego.I did a google map search and found it to be a home in an neighbor hood.Oh and by the way i know Sandiego and were that nieghbor hood is and there is NO office park there.So good luck to all who get involved and it $300 now not $250.Agian good luck make money dont hate on anybody trying to make money to live a better life. Happy hollidays and GodBless
December 11, 2009 1:02 PM
Mike said...
Very well said Chicane407!!
http://90recruitsin90days.com
December 11, 2009 1:38 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
? There is no corporate office in Sandiego? where did you get that idea??
I have the details of the 3 new offices. None of them are in Sandiego
December 13, 2009 1:41 PM
Bogiesgirl said...
Hi guys!
I just wanted to stop by, and give my 2 cents. . .LOL!!! My name is Kim, and I am from Atlanta, Ga. I am currently involved with TVI, and I will tell you my personal experience. I joined in October of 2009, and I was sponsored by my boyfriend. We were told about this opportunity by a friend who plays pro sports. So in any event, I was a little skeptical, because it sounded too good to be true! So, needless to say. I didn't join immediately, but my boyfriend did!. So I didn't think much about about it. Well about 2 weeks went by, and he received an email in his yahoo account from the company stating he had received 500.00(250 cash, 250 voucher) in his back office.Once I saw that, I jumped in head first. Within my first 6 days of joining, I convinced 2 friends to join as well. Once the board split, I jumped ahead of people who didn't sponsor 2! I was ecstatic. Since then I have personally brought in over 16 people, thus helping me get to the pay out much faster. Listen i can't tell you this is for everybody, but I made a decision thatt was good for me. When I thought about the alternatives out there, I knew it would take over 3 years of working a job at 150k to take care of all my debt, not to mention that, that job is not available to me. People I was drowning! This is been a life raft, and if you are reading this, you are probably drowning as well. I wish everyone much success, if you can find something to get you out of this financial mess, whether it's TVI or not. But if you would like to know more, and just talk to a real person, that's not trying to sell you, then feel free to contact me at kkarrington@gmail.com. I wish you much happiness.
Kindest regards,
Kimberly
December 13, 2009 9:44 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
Hi guys, I came off the traveller board again earlier this week, so that is twice in under a week. I received my money straight away. I have had 2 new people join our team in the last couple of days, it really is growing and moving so well. TVI has announced all their new offices, they have kept to all they have said they would do. Please feel free to ask any questions on skype - frazerash1 or visit our website www.fasttracktofreedom.net
Vim
December 16, 2009 12:47 PM
Jim said...
Has anyone actually used a travel certificate and reported on their experiences? Obvious and legitimate question and no one is really stepping up to answer...if travel certificates were available for trade or sale, wouldn't there be a demand for such a wonderful discounted opportunity? Doesn't even seem to be a hint of a whisper about it...just about bringing more folks in, ironically, under the premise of the travel certificate being the lesser one of the two primary benefits!
December 17, 2009 3:57 AM
Muhammad said...
if u got money dont join but dont hold other people back hell its only 250 an alote of yall r fussen like yo world gone end if u spend 250 which is no money 4 people who work everyday get a life we cant take the money wit us when we die so people if u reading this lookn 4 a reason 2 join or not the decsion is on u jus dont let some mesrible people who dont have nothing 2 do but sit a critisize cause they unhappy for what reason i dont know so 2 all those who lookn 4 some biz that may change yo life by all means invest jus know no matter what it is theres gonna b work
December 17, 2009 12:11 PM
Mike said...
See Muhammad, that's how poor people think. They say things like "it's only one dollar, let's just play the lotto, we might win". Rich people don't gamble like that. They take very calculated risks that they know the outcomes to. Sure it's only $250.00, but think about how many other "opportunities" you could say that about and get sucked in every time. Folks keep your $250 and invest it wisely. Don't throw it away like Muhammad is suggesting, especially on TVI Express.
http://90recruitsin90days.com
December 17, 2009 2:45 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
I know that there has not been a lot of talk on here about the travel discounts, and the people in my team are working on some videos this week to show the comparisons..I will post the video later this week, but this is an excerpt from an email from a man who is in my team which he has sent out today..
"One camprison, I did was a flight from Brisbane to LA in June next year (2010). With VAUSTRALIA, the return flight was going to be $1467. For the exact same flight, with the same airline, same departure times and departure dates it would be $1268 with TVI. A saving of $199.
The good thing I found with TVI’s hotel stays is that if you find a cheaper rate with the same hotel dates etc within 24 hours of booking with TVI, they will match the price and pay you 10% of the difference in price.
I also did some comparisons with some of TVI’s hotels in Brisbane for March next year. For one of the 5 Star hotels compared to wotif.com. TVI came up $36 cheaper per night. That was at the highest scale, the smallest margin being $10."
We will have more to show later in the week, so without everyone just focussing on the opportunity and saying. "oh it's a scam" have a look at some of the discounts.. If you want to check out a price from somewhere to somewhere please let me know.. vimnashart@live.com or www.fasttracktofreedom.net
TVI is great, if you are sitting on the fence wondering, you can call us on skype - frazerash1 if you decide it's not for you, that's fine, but take a look, and no don't join with the people saying it's $27 or $117 or $2.99 they are being checked out by TVI at the moment and will be shut down. With the new credit card system TVI has introduced in the last week, sign ups are going smoothly, and people are not having to buy vouchers from each other..
Remember though, a lot of the people slagging TVI are only doing it to benefit them so they can promote their own thing..
Vim
December 20, 2009 4:31 AM
Truc said...
OK...
1 question... if TVI is a scam, why then would Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson of Virgin Atlantic be involved in TVI express?
December 21, 2009 3:42 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
Did a representative from TVI Express give you that information? That is totally false. They are not involved in TVI Express in any way!
December 21, 2009 3:51 PM
90recruitsin90days said...
This is in response to handmade candles. I thought the whole purpose of paying the $250 was to get a vacation package with a free return flight included, I din't realize that the $250 is to join a service that I could get a 10% discount on travel. I coul get much better deals from Orbitz, or Hotwire, without having to pay $250.00!
December 21, 2009 3:53 PM
Handmade Candles by Vim said...
As of this morning my sponsor is now on top of the express board about to make his first $10k, and he has another spot right below it as well.. VERY exciting. No mike..the purpose of joining is to be part of a discount travel club where you will get lifelong discounts on car hire, flghts and accomodation it is not a 10% discount mike..please read what I said. You ALSO get a business opportunity and you get a free 6 night 7 day holiday. plus the chance to make some wonderful friendships along the way. As far as Warren Buffet goes, he is saying direct selling is the way to go, I don't think he has ever directly said anything about TVI but I can check that out.
December 21, 2009 9:38 PM
mxb International said...
hi evry one ,
I am a member of the TVI, I'm an Iraqi and resident in Dubai,I think it's an opportunity, no matter how you mentioned the comments of this company,
For the information of all
You can get 15,000 dollars, even if the number of members does not exceed fifty ..!!
And this happened because the board members together from different places and not only from your downlines
And thus will increase the chances you get 15,000 dollars, in addition to the work of your downlines
There are many positive changes occurred in the company
So now accept credit card,
best regards
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